Here’s what will happen with Trump and DeSantis

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Lance: So, this is happening right around the same time as the National Prayer Breakfast which for those of us that are politically involved. It’s kind of an interesting period of time up there. A weird time actually in Washington. It started getting strange before Donald Trump came along but he added the Kibosh to it. He was just so fascinating. Remember the time that he was at the prayer breakfast, the first prayer breakfast and my wife has this thing. She prays in tongues when I start getting in trouble. So, I’ll start talking and she starts the engine going on the front row and she kind of can feel something put me back on track. But I’m listening to her praying in tongues while Trump is talking. Because she said, he’s going off. He’s going to I realized she’s interceding for him to get him back on track. Remember that?

Because of the prayer breakfast of all the worst places to talk about Arnold Schwarzenegger trying to take over the apprentice and what a terrible rating he was getting. I can remember it was like bombing every out of prayer breakfast, but Trump’s just Trump everywhere he goes. He just is there’s nothing about him that is deceptive. What you see is totally what you get, this is what freaks the left out. Because he doesn’t have any backroom intrigues, he just is a blunt force object coming at you and they’re scared to death of him. When I started meeting with. This is how this happened. I was going with Kim Clement to go meet Donald Trump up at his office in New York. And Trump had decided that he was going to be meeting with some key evangelical leaders and somehow, it’s really weird. I got on the list. I stay off the radar. Then maybe intentionally maybe sometimes I self-sabotage. I like to be off the radar. I like to be what I call a ninja sheep. I can get around a little easier if I’m not exposed for what for everything I’m doing. But because I’m working on things. I can’t talk about.

So, for instance, I got a phone call last week. “Hey, you want to go meet with Maduro in Venezuela”. I go, “This is crazy. He’s a dictator, isn’t he?” “Yeah, but I think we got an open door. We can go get the guy saved”. I said, “This is my kind of world”. I can’t explain that on Flashpoint. They’ll RC CNN. They think I’m crazy. So anyway, so I’m up at this I get a call from Rick Joyner. I’m going to whop wander around here. This is the perfect tribe to have ADD with. You all follow me. So, I get a call from Rick Joyner. I need you to go down to Florida and meet a billionaire. He wants to talk to you. I go, Rick. But Rick can do that. Rick and Colette can pull that on me. It’s like go get on a plane and go do something. It’s crazy. It’s like all right. It’s like the man from Uncle. I’m getting headquarters. They’re telling me to do something. It’s probably God. So, I get on a plane. I go down. The billionaire doesn’t show up but I’m in a warehouse with metal chairs and they got this whiteboard like this. It was ridiculous. I’m sitting there in a warehouse talking and I’m giving my 7 Mountain theory of how the world works. It’s my 30,000-foot reframe of how to understand the complexity of the world and what God is actually doing.Which works for me and I’m explaining it to them. And when it’s all over, I’m flying home, couldn’t find the billionaire and I’m saying the devil gets in the seat next to me and says what are you doing with your life.

All your friends are on TBN they got MAGA churches, they got multi-million-dollar ministries and what are you doing flying around to garages to meet billionaires that don’t show up. What kind of a life is this? This and I thought, what’s wrong with me? Why am I doing this? This is so I get home. Well, I find out from my secretary. She goes, “You’re going to fire me”. I go,“Why?” She goes, “Two weeks ago you were called by Trump Towers. They wanted you to come up and meet with Donald Trump and I played the message. I’m just now playing the message and the meeting is like tomorrow”. I go, “Tomorrow”. She goes, “And Kim Clement called and he said he’s going to be at the meeting and you’re supposed to be there”. I go, “Well,get me a ticket and just go”. So, I fly up there.

Now I get up there and I’m at the meeting. Kim doesn’t show up because this is his first stroke. You know he’s in a hospital. I don’t know that. I’m at the meeting. I’m with I get there and there’s Kenneth Copeland and Paula White and Jan Crouch and Jeremiah this and this TV preacher that and this and all the MAGA church preachers and stuff. I’m looking at them and I go up to the guy at the elevator has a clipboard and I’m feeling a little bit like out of my element. I’m going,these are all like famous I can see Trump wants to meet influential evangelicals. So, these are all the TV preachers and MAGA church professors. I am not any of them and I go to the guy at the elevator. I go. “Excuse me my name on that list?” He goes, doesn’t even look down at the list. He goes, “Yeah. Your name’s on the list”. I’m thinking, how could the security guy at the elevator know my name? I said, “It’s Wallnau”. He goes, “I know who you are. I know who you are because I put you on the list. I’m the guy responsible for inviting people”. I said, “Well, how do you know me?” He said, “Well, it’s kind of weird but there was this garage meeting in Florida.And it was the weirdest thing. God told me to go. I didn’t even know where I was going. I’m sitting there in his middle chairs and you’re there on a with a whiteboard. And while you’re there,God told me you’re going to put him in front of Donald Trump”. He said, “So, when I got called to put the meeting together obviously, I had to get you here. I’m glad you showed up”.

That’s how I got involved with Donald Trump by going, by following these weird meetings. So anyway, I met that meeting. Kim doesn’t show up and I go home. And I go I’m and I very desperate because people are saying, “Well, what do you think of Trump? What do you think of Trump?” I go, “I don’t know. I was going to ride at a free ride off the profit over there. He’s going to get a word and then I try to help him out”. I said, “But now I have to hear from myself”. Now, weird thing is by process of association, you can pick up on someone’s gifts. It’s kind of like the shedding spike protein. It can get on you from people that are highly vaxed. So, I’m hanging out with Kim and he shedded the prophetic on me. Because I get home and I hear off my left ear. I hear, “Donald Trump is a wrecking bolt of the spirit of political correctness”. It’s like a ticker tape coming right through my ear. I go, whoa. This could be a deceiving spirit. I’m not used to hearing God that clearly. The next president of the United States would be Isaiah 45.

Oh boy. I said now I’m dealing with a spirit talking to me. I don’t know if it’s God or if it’s what. So, I thought I better check it out. So, I go when you have to discern the spirit, what do you do you? Go to Google. So, I went to Google and I enter in what number is the next president of the United States because I knew Barack Obama was 44 and I knew that he was reelected. I followed politics that closely and I figured he has to be 44 and 45, but of course it says there right there in Google. It says, the president the last president was 44 reelected twice but you’ve only kept your number once. It’s kind of like a football jersey, New York Yankees you’re number 7 for life 44 for life. No, matter how many times you’re the next president will be 45. So, I go to Isaiah 45 and that’s what the Lord said. I should have gone to Isaiah 45 first. So, I open up Isaiah 45. “Thus says the Lord to Cyrus whom I’ve anointed to go through the two leaf gates of Babylon to undo the belts of his adversaries and I will give to him the treasures of darkness. He will break the iron bronze gates”. Then it goes, “And all of this I will do for the sake of my people Israel. Though you do not know me”.

Talking to Cyrus, though you don’t know me. I said, oh my gosh, God‘s going to do this for the sake of his people. He’s going to do it for the sake of Israel. He’s going to answer prayers. He’s going to pick a foreigner instead of delivering them through a Jew. He’s going to go outside the evangelical community and pick a heathen and it’s going to be God doing it for verily I am a Godwho hides himself. First, let’s write their own one chapter. Well, it’s obvious to me. God was going to do something the church wouldn’t like. The world wouldn’t like and then I go back to what Kim had prophesied and he says, “What I’m about to do, the Democrats will hate and the Republicans will despise”. I thought, how can you possibly do something that both Democrats and Republicans don’t like. You can’t succeed if he and well, at least one of those parties working on your side but Donald Trump comes along. The Democrats hated him and the Republicans despise him and God raised up something. The prophet said. God wasn’t happy. He was dissatisfied with both parties. Dissatisfied.

Well anyway, this wasn’t a word that anybody wanted for the reasons that Scott said. Republicans all like, they either like Ted Cruz or they liked Carson, Ben Carson. I have friends of mine that were all on all these campaigns. Hey, I’m going to help Ben Carson get elected in Nevada. Go for it. It’s not going to win but go for it. God going to use the Heathen from New York. Do you know why God chose Donald Trump? I have a theory on this. Nobody likes it. See here’s the deal. If you’re really prophetic, you’re not saying what people want to hear. We have developed a charismatic addiction to prophets prophesying things that make us cry and weep and enjoy the moment and fall down and get up happy and write it down and transcribe it and go prophesy and proclaim it. I’m all for that. I wouldn’t be where I’m at without a prophecy that blasted me out of the world into the ministry but I’m telling you something, true prophets talking about world affairs and not always saying what you want to hear. Nobody wanted to hear about Trump. He was annoying the people.

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Lance: But God was saying Something. I think God was saying the church didn’t do its job. So,if you don’t mind, I’m going to do something that will offend everybody. Including pious Christians who to this day are still bothered by Donald Trump. But little did I know that when I started delivering the Word of the Lord, it would make me internet famous and anathema to the church. I stopped getting invited to every conference no church would open up to me because I was too hot to handle. Just because I was giving them the future accurately that they didn’t want to hear. So, I kind of thought this is really weird. I’m no longer, that’s why I’m always encouraged by pastors that invite me to their church. It takes a certain amount of courage or crazy to do that, or both.

So here we are. Now people are always coming up to me and saying, well, what’s going to happen? That’s what’s got to do with Donald Trump. It’s kind of interesting how the Lord if you’re really like I said a Jewish I think being Jewish may gives you a little bit of an edge. It’s like being Native American. I think Native Americans. Like Bob Jones. He would always tell me that because he was part what is he? Cherokee or something. They said these are the Native Americans. We are always more prophetic. I think it’s true with Jewish people too. I think Jewish people are a little bit more prophetic when they get what they’re called as a prophet they have a little bit of it. I’m not sure there’s not a theology for this, but I think that Jews and Native Americans they have something in common somehow. Because we’re both, they’re tribal 12tribes of Israel, the tribes in America.

I believe I have some Native American tribal background somewhere from one of my forefathers here. Chief running bear Goldstein. Somewhere we’ll find it. But I’m going to give you an idea what I think is people say what was going to happen with Trump and DeSantis. I did a whole sermon recently. I asked the Lord. I said, Lord, you gave me a word what’s going to happen with Donald Trump before. It was accurate. Nobody liked it. Then everybody loved it. Then half it does. Then next thing we have a whole prophetic movement. Everybody’s a Trump prophet. I got pushed everybody’s got words about Trump and they got carried away they went too far. Because he had to only prophesy what you hear and not what you want to hear. So, it’s like well, let’s see. What’s going to happen? I go, “Lord, you could help me out. People ask me all the time what’s going to happen”. You know the Lord told me?

He took me to John’s gospel. John’s gospel, this is great. I go to John’s Gospel. I got to use that whiteboard. You brought it down. That guy was huffing and puffing at me to carry it all the way down. I better do something with it. I feel a little guilty if I don’t use it. I go to John’s Gospel. You got, John, let me show you this. “Lord, what’s going to happen with Donald Trump?” Here’s what the Lord says to me. I don’t think God spoke to any prophet about Donald Trump yet. Maybe he has but I’m going to my suspicion is he hasn’t. Here’s what the Lord says. Chapter 2. Jesus is talking to Simon Peter verse 18. “Verily I say unto thee when you were young”. By the way, I have the old King James here. This is the one I took. Whatever Bible’s on the shelf when I leave the house. This was been through a lot as you can see. Old King James, “Verily, verily I say unto you when you were young, you girded yourself and walk whether you wanted to go and when you shall be old, you will stretch forth your hands that another shall gird thee and carry thee whether thou wouldest not”.

Meaning, when you’re older, someone’s going to tie up your hands and take you where you don’t want to go. And this spake he’s signifying by what death Peter would glorify God and when he had spoken thus, he said to him, “Follow me”. Then Peter turning around sees the disciple whom Jesus loves, following which also leaned on Jesus breast at the supper and said, and Peter says to Jesus, “What about this guy?” Now this is fascinating to me. Only Jesus can tell you you’re going to die a martyr’s death is an old man in a way you don’t want to die. And you’re edified by it. I mean, think about this. Peter just hears he’s going to die and be murdered with his hands tied being taken where he doesn’t want to go, but he’s so excited about this. He knows he’s going to glorify God that way and he’s happy. Okay, he’s reconciled. That’s how I go, and so now in Jesus’presence, okay but then, he’s curious about, what about him? Because John was like his best friend and so he’s curious and he’s literally saying, how’s he going to die?

Basically, he wants to die. He’s going to go, because he told me what that guy? How’s he going to go? And it’s a fascinating the relationship they had with Jesus that they would be that familiar that even with the resurrected son of God. It’s like, how about him? It’s like and to the end, Jesus is constantly tuning up the disciples. They’re screwing up all the time and Jesus goes, “Look, he owes you the eye roll like, if I want him alive till I come back, what business is out of yours, nosy? You follow me”. Now, what would that have to do with Donald Trump and Ron DeSantis? I’m going to tell you right now. The Lord said to me, “If I want Trump to be president, what business is that of yours?” That’s his destiny with me, that’s America. You know what? I’m not holding you accountable to judgement seat for what happens to the Republican Party. You follow me. You got that?

Now, here’s what I believe. It’s far more likely somebody with that perspective will get guidance on what’s going to happen than somebody who’s probing into things that God‘s not talking about that have nothing to do with you anyway. You have to follow Jesus. What happens to America is important, but not as important as what is happening with you. Because you’re not accountable for what America does with God. You’re accountable for what you do with God. So, this brings it down to why the business of business is interesting to me because it really doesn’t matter what happens to America. The economy is of course important, I deal with it. I do a news program. It’s interesting we’re close to 10 million downloads right now in one year. That’s a lot of downloads.It shows there’s a hunger out there for people that are prophetic in Pentecostal giving a conservative perspective because there’s a lot of us underrepresented in the marketplace. So, if you’re in my niche and you got a good record, people will listen to you.

What’s important for you to think about as business people is what is Jesus telling you to do and be a little less obsessed about what happens with America. America’s got its own battle and it’s got its own outcome and it’s got its own course of history in which God‘s going to work things out. But what I’m trying to say to you is, you follow me. So, if I’m looking at this thing as a schematic on what I would want you to know about. I want the 300,000-foot picture as to what’s happening in America right now. So, this will give you, there’s couple of ways you could do these stairs. I’m going to do it this way right now. It starts off with the Cyrus prophecy. So, I gave that word. To Donald Trump by the way. I said, thus says the Lord is and I was in a meeting with Donald Trump. I’m at a second meeting at Trump Towers and I had this happen because all of a sudden, the racism. The principality of racism. White hatred in Christian National.

Now the devil’s got a whole new game he’s going to work on. And so, Trump is having these disruptions in his rallies and the devil is working feverishly to label him as a white supremacist. Which is ridiculous on the surface because you go into his office and here’s Don King and Mike Tyson and here’s his all the celebrities that are his friends in New York. Donald Trump isn’t racist. He is actually, he’s tone deaf on race. That’s his greatest weakness. Because he doesn’t know how to pick up on the nuances but he’s not a racist. He isn’t. He doesn’t like anything that doesn’t succeed. He is prejudice, but he’s prejudice against failure and anything it’s a failure. He doesn’t care what race you are, it’s a failure. And he likes success. Dennis Rodman. He has a picture on his desk of him and Dennis Rodman. It’s hilarious if you actually know the guy. He’s tone deaf on race. He doesn’t use his color blind on it. He’s just success. That’s why he has a bias towards gold and success.

So anyway, I’m up there and they’re having this issue because there’s this these incidents happening in the rallies. And the room is filled with black activists, preachers, and people that are confronting Donald Trump about his racism. I get a call from Darryl Scott who’s the head of the diversity coalition working for Donald Trump. After the first meeting at Trump Towers. I thought, well okay, I heard what God had to say about Trump wrecking ball, boom. I’ll go back to my alliance of the world. He calls me up and says you got to come back. I go why? He goes, well, you see this whole race issue man. I’m the haze. The heat is killing me. He says, we got tosolve this thing. We got to resolve this thing because he said the black community is screaming because I said it’s a spiritual battle man. They’re trying to label the guy. You know he is. He goes,I know that but I need you to show up. I go, “Well, I don’t know if you’ve noticed this but I’m not a minority. I look like a Jewish accountant. What am I going to do for you?” He goes, “Well, I don’t know if you’ve noticed it but if you look at America, you’re a future minority. You should show up”. He said, “Come on. You’re the strategist. Just show up”.

So, I said to him, I go, “Daryl. Daryl, not for nothing. After that first meeting, I think this guy is it”. He goes, “What do you mean?” I go, “I get back home. The Lord says, Donald Trump’s a wrecking ball of the spirit of political correctness”. The Lord tells me he’s an Isaiah 45 guy that just says “Though you do not know me”. He doesn’t know God. He doesn’t even know that he doesn’t know God. He thinks he’s a Christian. He’s not a Christian but God‘s using him and he’s going to he’s an answer to prayer and he’s going to disrupt the global agenda of hell for at least forty. They’re going to go crazy with him. He’s going to disrupt the devil for four years. He said, “I believe that. You need to come to this meeting”. I go, “Oh, alright”.

I go to the meeting up at Trump Towers. And I’m there and indeed I’m like one of only two or three white people. Me and Michael Cohen his lawyer. So, I’m sitting there. Donald Trump comes in with his mother’s Bible. 1956. His mother gave him a Bible at his confirmation. He comes walking in like this with his Bible. He’s got the Bible open like this across his chest. He stops. He says, “normally I bring this for show and tell. Today I’m wearing it for protection”. He walks in Great sense of humor. Every half the room laugh. The other half is saying, huh? Because he’s got a great sense of humor. He says, “Alright, let’s talk about what’s going on. All I could tell you is I don’t know what’s happening in the rallies. The rallies are filled with people that love me”. He said, “All of a sudden, there’s a fight breaking out. It’s a fight break. I think people are being planted to in order to do stuff. Oh, but you can’t have that. You can’t have this anymore and they’re one after another, they get up and start lecturing him about he’s got to take control of his meeting and the hate speech and the hate and he’s looking like he’s a racist”. He says, “Honestly, I don’t understand it”. Then, I watched a brilliant moment. That’s when I knew the guy had a Solomon-like gift.

Now, I’m an observer in this stuff. Political neophyte. I don’t know anything about politics really. Seven Mountains was my domain. Revival. Revival and reformation. I’m like, you guys. I’m like, I’m Rodney Howard, Brown Junkie. I got my ministry named off of Rodney Howard Brown. I went down and taught once in his church, only one time. I went down there when I was young. I taught in his church. He comes up and goes, what do I make to check out to? I didn’t even have a ministry. I was speechless. I didn’t have a bank account. He goes, Lanced Wallnau Ministries? I go, yes, that was it. I went back, I opened up an account for Lance Wallnau Ministries. Rodney was the first offering.

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