Podcast
Why Election Integrity Matters! Lance Live With Jenna Ellis
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4 years agoon
We’re talking to Jenna Ellis today about the prognosis for the upcoming midterm elections. We’re discussing citizen engagement, what the media and courts were suppressing, The Trump Jan 6th smear campaign, and more!
Episode Transcript
Lance: Hey, this is Lance Wallnauu. Welcome to the Lance Wallnau Show Live. As you can tell, I got Mike Lindell in the background. He’s doing some powerful stuff. I got 1500 people have been in and out of here specially invited that led, they’re involved with legislation, election integrity. We’ve had all 50 States delivering dropping the science on us about what’s going on with their states where they’re at. But I think the part for me that was kind of fascinating was Donald Trump’s attorney Jenna Ellis. She took us behind the scenes and what it’s like to be on the front lines as a believer and an attorney, working with Donald Trump in the middle of the fire. I’m not going to say anything else. We’ll just jump right in.
Tell me about, were you at the last year cyber symposium?
Jenna Ellis: I was not unfortunately, but I watched a lot of it.
Lance: Oh, you watched a lot of it. Things have really developed since last year with everything.Because last year we’re focusing on the packet’s machines etcetera. But what came out between then and now is a massive, I would say more forensic and practical effort of cleaning up an awful lot of voter problems. From voter rolls to changing law and tightening things up. But you have a 30,000-foot view on this. I’ve got to ask you the question my people are going to be wanting to hear from you on. What’s the prognosis for the midterms in terms of election integrity? Have we made progress from where we were? When we did the symposium a year ago, there’s a lot of anxiety about where things are at. How are we doing in terms of this next election? What’s your perspective?
Jenna Ellis: I think that we are trending in a hopeful direction and I hope that that actually encourages people because we’ve seen a lot of significant wins. Like we’ve seen these efforts to clean up the voter rolls. We’ve seen some of these audits. We’ve seen the Wisconsin Supreme Court that finally invalidated the Wisconsin Election Commissions over 500 drop boxes that were illegal that won’t occur now for the 2022.
Lance: How many votes came through those 500 drop boxes?
Jenna Ellis: There were a lot. I don’t have a specific number on that. But I mean a lot. A lot and yeah and if you look at the margin of difference between President Trump and Joe Biden in Wisconsin the amount that were through those drop boxes would be outcome determinative. And if you look at the drop boxes and because they were themselves illegal every single ballot that was put into these unmanned boxes by definition was an illegal ballot. So, these types of things and this was a claim that the Trump campaign actually brought. Of course, we were kicked out based on standing, but thankfully the Wisconsin Supreme Court had the one judge that flipped and actually was willing to review this. We’ve willing to review it on the merits and now that won’t happen in 2022.
Lance: What standing argument would be kicked out? I mean the standing is, hey, this is fraudulent and I lost an election constant. That’s pretty good standing.
Jenna Ellis: Well, I mean it was so insane to me as a lawyer to say, okay, you are a candidate for the highest selected office in the country and you don’t have standing to bring a challenge and say, hey, we’re questioning. Whether there was a violation the rules. I mean it would be like the top two baseball teams at the World Series and there is an allegation that the umpire is corrupt or is making right bad calls. And the coach for one of the team says, hey, I’m challenging this and oh sorry you have no interest here you have no irreparable harm. You have nothing’s.
Lance: You’re irrelevant to this.
Jenna Ellis: Its crazy but obviously I think it was politically driven. But what I am happy about is that there are so many more Americans that are so focused on election integrity. That weren’t even aware that this was an issue before 2020.
Lance: So, that’s my hopeful outcome is that there have been two things that happened. One, the degree of citizen engagement is off the charts. Because I think the legislators and the apparatus and the machinery was just functioning on its own and Trump came along and became a populist iconic rally like a great leader. And he really rebuilt the infrastructure of the Republican Party in terms of getting out the vote. He did it himself, between his own media and his rallies and his own messaging. He created his own following. But we were never involve with the legislators and we were never really involved with the secretary of States. We would vote and there’s always a certain amount of evangelicals or conservatives that are informed in this stuff. But I’m telling you, the rank and file of the masses of us that were frustrated by the election and felt it was taken.
We were getting a civics lesson going backwards and saying, why isn’t there any push back. Tell me if I’m wrong. I think the legislators were used to getting their directions from the party and from their donors and from their other interest and the people suddenly showed up and said, hey,you need to do something. And they were caught in the cross fire and kind of froze for a while because they weren’t aware that there is a base that was going to be something to have to deal with.
Jenna Ellis: Well, I absolutely agree with you and they weren’t even aware of their own authority and that was the thing that really surprised me was that a lot of these State legislators had no idea that they were the constitutionally appointed entity to determine the electoral college.
Lance: Are you serious?
Jenna Ellis: They all have that power but they were having. They had no idea because after 1824, a majority and so this is going back a lot of years. A majority of States through their legislatures delegated their authority to the executive branch to the secretaries of State and to the executive branch. So, the legislatures didn’t really think they had anything to do with them. So,as I was going in and talking to them in these legislative hearings, it was mind blowing to me that they had no idea their own constitutional authority. And wouldn’t you think if you are a Republican or even a truth see that once someone told you, you are the constitutionally appointed entity. Guess what? You have the authority to do something about, because I’m just an attorney. I can advocate to those in authority to do something and to make the right call. But if I was told,Jenna, you actually have the authority, then I would be so happy about that. I would say thank God, I can do something about it, but these legislators then became so lazy and so intimidated.They had been lazy were intimidated.
Lance: So, there we go.
Jenna Ellis: That they said, well, sorry we don’t want to do anything about it. They refuse to come back into session and even as an entire legislature hear the evidence. Look at it. If not for Doug Mastriano who now I’m supporting for governor of Pennsylvania and everyone in Pennsylvania needs to get out and vote for him. He’s a current sitting senator and he was in 2020. As a legislator, he said, it is my obligation to my constituents to at least hear the claims and to at least look at the evidence presented.
Lance: Shocking. Make Giuliani an opportunity.
Jenna Ellis: Yes, and that was what ultimately led to three other hearings in other states and was the true catalyst for the American people to see what the media and the courts were all suppressing.
Lance: And to this day there’s a misrepresentation of the facts. I mean it’s mind boggling to me that the new smear that it’s on all the MAGA candidates that won in the wake of the last round of primaries. That it’s their big lie that they’re trying to find a way to smear the most delusional Trump conspiratorial January 6ers. They’re doing whatever they can to lump that deplorable image on them.
Jenna Ellis: My favorite is election denier.
Lance: Yeah, election.
Jenna Ellis: As if we deny that an election took place.
Lance: Right.
Jenna Ellis: No, we simply are corruption deniers. We are saying corruption should not occur and we are constitutionalist and we understand that here in America if there is a claim, then you can go and litigate that. And the president of the United States as a candidate for the highest selected office, why can every single other election have litigation surrounding contest and controversies. But not Donald Trump. Every other president could have gone. I mean look BushV Gore. Look at the history even early elections in our country. Yet Donald Trump was treated differently.
Lance: Alright, so you’re talking to the great armies we have out there of in the populousmovement.
Jenna Ellis: Thank you.
Lance: What do they here to do? What do they need to be focused on right now? 80 days going to midterms, and then we have the great presidential round coming up. How can they be more focused and engaged? The one thing I don’t want to hear people say anymore is what can I do. I think we’re finally getting the same “Precinctstrategy.com” etcetera. We’re coming up with places to set people. But what would you tell them?
Jenna Ellis: I would say first and foremost, get out and vote. Absolutely make sure that your voice is heard. Get out and vote in person. Volunteer as a poll watcher. Volunteer as an election official. Make sure that you are doing your part to be on the front lines and also don’t shut up about this. You have the opportunity as an American citizen to ask these questions. Don’t be intimidated. Don’t be silent. Have the courage to stand up and say I’m demanding free and fair elections. Call your legislators and demand that they review their roles, their voter ID laws, ballot harvesting should be illegal in every state. Actually Dinesh De Souza, my colleague at Salem calls it ballot trafficking and actually I think that’s a better term for it. Because that’s what they’re doing.
You need to be donating to candidates for the midterms like Doug Mastriano, like Kerry Lake, like Mark Fincham who’s running for Arizona Secretary of State. All of these are so important because Politico even got it right. Shockingly, the one time that Politico’s ever gotten right, when they said that the people who will administer the 2024 presidential elections are on the ballot in 2022. And if we want a freer and more fair election, not that it’ll be perfect but a free and fair election and actually people who administer it fairly. Because everybody knows there’s a winner and loser. That’s fine. We just want it to be fair. The people who will administer the 2024election are on the ballot. Those are the secretaries of states the governors the executive branch.
Doug Mastriano in Pennsylvania he gets to appoint his secretary of State. There are only three states in the nation that have it that way otherwise they’re elected. So, look, know your State,know why these offices are so important. Get out and vote.
Lance: Yeah, and I would add look I got a large number of conservative of Christians and evangelicals out there probably. I don’t know. There’re a million downloads. So, most of you listen to me Rant and Rave bible stuff, so you got to be following me along with that.
Jenna Ellis: Good, keep doing that.
Lance: They’re attacking, more than ever they’re drawing a circle around. They’re going, it’s a very dangerous territory. Because they’re starting to get to challenge the faith credentials and the credibility and they’re trying to smear as loony people that are really the salt of the earth that are traditional been the backbone of American culture. I just want to say this is Christian nationalism they’re trying to label and stuff dominionism, as though they don’t try to take over everything.This is always ironic how they accuse the stuff that they’re doing.
Jenna Ellis: Well, and even like Christian nationalist, well they are basically a secular nationalist because they want this country to be secular. They don’t want just an immoral system where there’s no morality that’s based on something. I mean every law and everything that we do has an intrinsic aspect of morality. Everything that we designate as impermissible in this society like rape, murder, all of these things. When we’re looking at, quote unquote gender-affirming care of children that really is just mutilation of their bodies. I mean, all of this has an intrinsically moral aspect and so, they’re trying to say, oh you’re pushing your values on us and we don’t allow that in this country and we’re not a Christian nation. Well, they’re trying to their secular Marxist values on us and so it doesn’t come down to whether or not morality and faith is implicit in law. It just is, who’s morality are we listening to?
Lance: Yeah, one of the dumbest statements I think we ever signed off on is you can’t legislate morality. Yeah, you can’t make somebody moral by legislation but all legislation is by its very definition somebody’s ethics being imposed.
Jenna Ellis: Exactly.
Lance: It’s a law being formed. So, as you’re going on in. What is your future hold fee? What are you doing now? You’re doing Salem, you’re doing broadcasting yourself or what?
Jenna Ellis: I am and every day, I always just get up and say, I will do today what god has for me because I never imagined I would have the opportunity to do all the things I’ve been doing and hopefully serving this great country and serving the lord ultimately. But I have a podcast on the Salem Podcast Network. It’s called the Jenna Ellis Show. You can go there the “Jennaellisshow.com”, Rumble. I also am a Newsmax contributor I also am a senior legal adviser for Doug Mastriano’s campaign. The chairman of the Election Integrity Alliance and in my spare time get to come and be part of all of these great things.
Lance: All of these great events. Well, I’m from Bucks County, Pennsylvania. So, I grew up in Philadelphia, Bucks County, went to Valley Forge Military Academy and I have been having friends of mine. I’m living in Dallas. So, friends of mine been telling me about having to get up to Pennsylvania because they have of course they have a key senate election. They have a key governor election. It’s the Keystone State and I want you to keep in touch with us and tell us what we can do because we’re probably going to do some meetings up in Pennsylvania to help Doug.
Jenna Ellis: Please do and thank you for that and the biggest thing for Doug even people who aren’t in Pennsylvania. He has been fundraising all just grassroots. I mean and this is a state that of course the leftists or various organizations that you all could recognize are giving and pouring in so much dark money into the State.
Lance: This is since 2000 Mules. I mean so what is it? Like two hundred and forty were Atlanta but like a thousand were Philadelphia.
Jenna Ellis: Right.
Lance: Pittsburgh and Philadelphia are the most disgraceful pockets of Democrat abuse of political power and then they’re legendary for Giuliani will go off for as everybody knows about Philadelphia elections. We have got to show up enforcing places like Pennsylvania.
Jenna Ellis: Yes, and please if you can donate directly to the candidates. Don’t go through the National RNC who spends money only what they want to So, “Doug4gov.com” is Doug Mushroom.
Lance: Doug4gov. Good plug. I will leave that in. I want that. “Doug4gov.com”.
Jenna Ellis: Thank you for that.
Lance: I want that to happen. You may not be able to comment on this but I was listening to Steve. So, I have a program Saturday after War Room, right. Right after his show and I was listening to him at CPAC. And he was talking to, oh I’m not sure who it was. But it was a different kind of dynamic rhythm because it was more conversational than the typical edited like we’re doing here. It’s kind of a discipline conversation. And he said something which really got my attention. It wasn’t with Boris Epstein, but it was one of the regulars. Maybe it might have been constant. But he said, the RNC is only backing certain candidates and they’re not full tilt boogie on all the MAGA candidates.
Jenna Ellis: That’s true.
Lance: Now look, this is inside baseball. My audience eats this up because my ears perked up. I went, what’s that. Because I’m thinking the team, McConnell is for anyone running and that the governors are all getting equally supportive. And then I realize there’s a lot of proxy wars going on, that what you have is this is just inside baseball. You got to know it.
Jenna Ellis: But look at what they did to Tennessee 5 and Robbie Starbucks.
Lance: Educators.
Jenna Ellis: Yeah, well so that one Robbie Starbucks who was running and he was the MAGAcandidate. He’s in Tennessee, he’s one of those that was ambivalent until the 2020. He said, you know what? I am going to run for congress and he had so much support and then the Republican Party said that he’s not a genuine Republican because he hasn’t voted in previous elections. They got him disqualified from the ballot so that they could put in their preferred candidate. Because the Republican Party knows that they couldn’t control him. So, there was a whole battle on this.
Lance: You hear this people; this is what I live for. This is signal not noise.
Jenna Ellis: Well exact, I mean and this is what is so corrupt about I like to call the Republican National Party DNC light. Because they’re doing the same things that the Democrats are doing just under the banner of somehow being more for freedom and liberty. No, they’re not because I don’t want a bureaucrat in Washington under the auspices of the Republican National Party,telling me if I live in Tennessee, who I can vote for and who actually represents my views. So,what they did to Robbie Starbuck was shameful. What they did to President Trump, theshameful.
Lance: I hate the fact that my team is making me cut this off that, because I want to talk about how the congress is the same way. They’re going to fund certain ones and then they’re lowering expectations. They’re saying, we can lose the senate and the congress may not maybe if we can win like 4 to 7 seats. What are they talking about?
Jenna Ellis: Because you know why? They would rather have Democrats than people who are under the Republican Party that they can’t control. They hate Marjorie Taylor Greene They hate the Donald Trump’s. They hate the Robbie Starbucks. They hate people even like me. I’m not even running for office at all, but they hate people like Doug Mastriano because they won’t see [INAUDIBLE 18:30]
Lance: Can we deconstruct the administrative?
Jenna Ellis: And you know how we do that is by defunding the RNC, because they only survive based on our donations.
Lance: They fund the RNC.
Jenna Ellis: And how we do that is by not donating to them.
Lance: I love that.
Jenna Ellis: They’re not a revenue generating institution. What are they doing? Nothing.
Lance: I love it, Jenna.
Jenna Ellis: Donate directly to the candidates.
Lance: Doug’s, call again. How can I support?
Jenna Ellis: “Doug4gov.com”.
Lance: You‘ll be back. We’ll talk some more on Lance Wall Now and our people love you. Thank you.
Jenna Ellis: Thank you. I really appreciate it.
Closing: Thanks for listening to this Lance Wallnau broadcast. If you enjoyed today’s show, make sure to subscribe and share the episode. See you tomorrow.
Lance: Hey friends we have to take a moment here to just stop in this moment of Truth Summit.We’ve been discussing some very powerful and hard realities. We’re literally stopping a downward spiral of this country and arresting it. By the grace of God, this is happening. Many people have found that the smart thing that they’re doing with the retirement money with whatever money they have is they’re converting it over into gold and silver and various other commodities and currencies. They believe are going to store value during this period of time in which Democrats are going to continue to have this inflation reducing spending sprees which are actually accelerating the inflationary process.
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