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What the government doesn’t want you to know

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We’ve got an extraordinary guest with us in the studio today, a mentor, consultant, and coach on world cultural trends; It’s the irrepressible Gordon Pennington! Gordon and Lance will be discussing in depth Dr. Peter McCullough’s new book about Covid, the governments’ response to it, and the spread of the pharma industrial complex. Dr. McCullough is no slouch either, with over 600 peer reviews, so he’s not easy to ignore.

In today’s episode, we’re talking about why the media and pharmaceutical companies dumped on ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine, the hold Big Pharma has on research grants and scholarships, the issue behind the scenes with airlines, and more!

Episode Transcript

Lance: Welcome to this special edition of the Lance Wallnau Show. I have my friend and I would say in many ways a mentor and a consultant and a coach in terms of what’s going on in the world, Cultural Relevancy, trends. It’s the irrepressible Gordon Pennington. Gordon, welcome to the show.

Gordon: Great to be here. Where are we anyway?

Lance: Well, right now, we’re in Waxahachie.

Gordon: I’ve never been to Waxahachie. Exactly.

Lance: Me either.

Gordon: Are we pronouncing it correctly?

Lance: I hope well if we are. We’re both wrong together.

Gordon: Because I’ve heard different variations.

Lance: What have you heard?

Gordon: Waxahachie.

Lance: Were you talking to an American?

Gordon: Yeah.

Lance: You’re talking to a Taxon.

Gordon: Yeah. Local.

Lance: Waxahachie.

Gordon: Oh Waxahachie.

Lance: That’s right. Alright, so now you travel around. You were just showing me a book. Let’s not lose that thought. What was that book that you just showed me?

Gordon: Well, fascinating new book that’s come out by Doctor Peter McCullough. Now Doctor Peter McCullough is a doctor’s doctor and a scientist, scientist from the standpoint of anybody who’s got 50 peer reviewed pages.

Lance: More peer reviews than anyone else as far as I know.

Gordon: And academic footnotes and so forth. Well, he’s got over 600, so he’s no slouch for so start with that. But the idea that you can dismiss people just because they’re dissenters, that’s the intemperate nature of our times that people don’t want to list anything except things that have been predigested. The problem of the mainstream, the establishment is very dangerous.

Lance: Basically McCullough is but he was one of the original councils with the White House. He was considered that qualified and so early on he was talking about the importance of therapeutics not just vaccines. And so he caught my ear with that. When I did it, I did an interview with him when I was in Aruba ironically I did a Flashpoint interview. And he said something live on the television which shocked me. He said, the government is not recording the negative out outcomes of the vaccines. And I was live on the air. And so we went for a station break and I went to Gene Bailey. I said, did I hear him, right. That the government is recording how many people have COVID. How many people are getting vaccinated but not how many people are having negative side effects.

I came on and asked him. He said, that’s exactly right. He said, they’re not letting about the side effects. I thought it was a very bold statement for someone to make. And then he went on to say that the therapeutics are the preventative strategies. The coping strategies. Did you hear how they jumped on ivermectin and on hydroxychloroquine. Why? Why would they do that? Because it cornered, it was hindering the money. The pharmaceuticals want to make on their dangerously untested vaccines where they’re going to make billions with this government prompt. Gordon,am I mischaracterizing or misrepresenting?

Gordon: Well I don’t think most people have paid attention to the growth and the spread of the pharma industrial complex. This is a real thing and Didier Raoul at the University of Marseille in France was following this trend a long time ago. And when he started questioning what was going on with the lack of administration of certain proven drugs including hydroxychloroquine and that he had very positive results in France. Of course, he was dismissed as an outlier and a liar and spreading this information. But this is the very nature of the problem we’re facing now.We’ve got to debate and discuss these things.

Now I probably should mention the people that would get in trouble if I were to spotlight their names. But let’s just say that someone I know is a very senior ethics professor at a very distinguished medical school in the United States was asked by me a few months ago why have you not had an open form at this medical school. Discussed the pros and cons of different approaches to the pharmaceutical industries testing in advance of the vaccines especially. What don’t we know about the protocols, about the politics, about the internal processes whereby these vaccinations are approved. There’s a lot we don’t know and it’s not even being examined.

Well, this person told me that the reason that they’re not having this kind of discussion at a major medical school is because big pharma has such a lock hold on the amount of money that’s given to research and scholarships that they wouldn’t dare. This is from the administration, not necessarily the medical faculty. But people are aligned and they’re afraid for their jobs and careers and their credibility and reputations and their licensure. So, this is a very real thing and if we don’t come to grips with it, we’ll all be falling prey to the kind of conceits and deceptions that are common. The Atlantic Monthly just came out with a piece today on 5 data sets that we should ignore. And these were all things that were approved by the FDA, approved by the CDC, practiced by the NIH, advanced by Fauci and Berks and others.

These were the ways of looking at if you were for example exposed to someone you should wait 5 days, 10 days. How long do you need to wait between vaccinations? Are you fully vaccinated?They’re throwing out all of this. Why? There was no scientific evidence seduced to support the contention of this article today. What was purported was that, that we’ve got to rethink all this because they’re going to advance another pandemic.

Lance: So, Biden makes this up this comment which is of course burning up the airways today about we need more money because the next pandemic is coming and we have to get ahead of it. It’s like the heck you talking about? It’s like Monkey Pox brain. I mean anybody are you cooking it up back there in the lab?

Gordon: Well, surely people are open minded enough to I hope. Maybe not. Because people’s formative thinking has prevented them from really looking at things that need to be looked at closely. So I’m grateful to.

Lance: What are you saying? That was a well that was a well-structured sentence. What are you saying?

Gordon: Thank you.

Lance: Are you saying that it’s possible that these things are actually being used as a strategy to do global reset activity. That if they’re not cooked up to in labs and released that they’re being exploited by strong entities in order to accomplish some kind of reorganizing agenda for the globe?

Gordon: Yes, people should do their own homework and look into these things. They are not obscure. It’s not undetectable.

Lance: But they weren’t done in a corner.

Gordon: They weren’t done in secret. And because this stuff has been so openly displayed for people, I think it’s time for a more open discussion. The whole problem is the mindset we’ve accepted now that you can’t question things. This is all cancelled.

Lance: There’s a lot of people that really don’t go over the vaccine. I wonder what the data really is. I look at the, so what happened with the flights? Have you had any problems with flights lately?

Gordon: 4 hour delays on Delta and I asked the Delta agents. I said, ‘Can you speak honestly and openly about what’s happening here? They looked at each other before they answered. And they said, ‘Look, we’ve had so many pilots that did not get the vaccine. And so many staff members that did not vaccine. And the reason was I talked to one of the chief pilots at a major airline. And he told me very openly. He says, we hear stories that haven’t been made public because of vaccine injury. Neurological injury. Cardio injury. Events taking place in cockpits that are putting passengers at risk. And as they’re hiring people to replace the people that have left or took early by outs or gone from the airlines with considerable experience. They can’t train people fast enough and the people aren’t necessarily testing.

Lance: The vaccine things should not be a priority right now. So why don’t they just relax that? Why don’t they just go practical and say, hey, pilots you wouldn’t want to do right now we’re we don’t have a problem. If you’re tested you want to be testing negative come to work.

Gordon: Yeah, I’m told and I don’t have all the data to verify this but I’m told that many pilots have come back. We’re not vaccinated and are flying now. And have the experience and they need them. They want them.

Lance: But Gordon I hate to say this. We got 6 minutes. We’re doing the show just we’re running out of time. And it’s happens when you and I talk like this on the phone. Except Gordon is more guarded in front of him and he’s more unlike me. He will not say, he’s one of those frustrating guys that I talked on the phone. It’s like, yeah, let’s talk about that but then he’s like a statesman. He comes down. Well, people say, well, a lot of people, did you read the report?

Gordon: I always thought discretion was the better part of that.

Lance: No, come on, Gordon. Here’s a good verse for you here. Do not fear the reproach of man nor be dismayed of their reviling’s, and who are you that you are a man who dies. These are all the verses I read to myself before I go on the air. The Lord has given me the tongue of the of the disciple that I may know how to sustain the weary one with the word. I’m reading from Isaiah chapter 50 & 51. Give me an insight on the greatest need that you think in Michigan you guys. You’re at the front lines in Michigan. You’re a watchman on the wall. My gosh, your state.

Gordon: Yeah, Michigan has had a lot of political challenges.

Lance: It’s so crazy.

Gordon: We started out with 12, 13, 14 gubernatorial candidates from the Republican side and now we’re down to 4. This is because your viewers are probably aware of this but because they signed up with a company that was getting them signatures, petition signatures which were invalidated. But the company that did this didn’t get enough margin of extra signatures that you would normally do and they didn’t work, they weren’t careful enough. But these gubernatorial candidates hadn’t apparently done their homework and done their research and due diligence to determine that this was being conducted reasonably and adequately and fairly and competently and legally.

Lance: You have such a wicked governor in my opinion.

Gordon: We have a compromised governor. Even people that worked with Gretchen Whitmer in the past report to me Democrats and people of all stripe and variety of background told me that she had a certain type of personality that they did not appreciate or like. And the abuse of power is second nature to people that are to this kind of abuse of will.

Lance: I mean she was one of those draconian governors trying to compete I think before Kamala Harris was even a candidate. Looked to me like she was auditioning for the role of being vice presidential progressive.

Gordon: Yeah, well she’s come out with their first television commercials. I was very interested to see how she misrepresents herself and her track record, but this is standard and here’s the problem Lance. People are comported. They’re so fragmented. We’re so fractured by the nature the way we absorb information, the way we are manipulated by propaganda and the devices that were practically appendages to our lives. And we don’t have the linear ability to absorb things, reflect on things, consider things together, and carefully and we need a more honest that nobody can cover every facet of every story.

Lance: I was told that the FBI director that was in charge of the setup for the supposed abduction and kidnapping of Gretchen Whitmer in Michigan that it was hilarious. Actually it’s like half the people involved were FBI informants and FBI that didn’t know each other was working on. So they’re kind of egging each other on, scoping each other out. And by the time it goes to the court,they realize that the dummies that were being recruited for this. That the real brains behind it was one half, you wonder how. So, anyway the guy that was in charge of that project is reassigned to Washington DC prior to the January 6th. So, you make sure wonder how much of the FBI had infiltrated the Proud Boys and the 1%ers and the oath keepers just like they did this group this cell of leftists being presented as a Trump supporters. How much of those groups were actually penetrated and how much knowledge did they have of their intention if they were going to do something? How much egging on were they getting from embedded agents?

Gordon: Absolutely.

Lance: And I pray to God this all comes after the November midterms that there’s a special committee that does the forensic on the January 6th committee and tells the actual story and puts Christopher Ray and these guys in on the hot seat.

Gordon: Yes.

Lance: Saying exactly how many agents were embedded and how come they did not give a warning. Can we see the transcripts? Can we look at the text messages? We’re going to go take the storm.

Gordon: It’s fascinating.

Lance: Pray to God it happens.

Gordon: It’s tragic. It’s sad. It’s laughable. It elicits so many different reactions. You can hardly believe that this is really what’s going on in our government but it is. And it’s essential that the truth come out and that we pursue it. Whatever happened to investigative journalism. When was the last truly investigative journalistic endeavor that you’ve witnessed on in mainstream media where it wasn’t just collusion, it was different reporters digging in, digging deeper, looking for the facts? Wherever it leads to be putting.

Lance: I think may be putting on a blog on a regular basis. By the way, how can people get in touch with you, stay in touch with you? We’re going to have you on again but how do they connect with you, Gordon?

Gordon: Yeah, I use smoke signals and carrier pigeons.

Lance: That’s usually how I do it. Do you have any other methodology?

Gordon: Not really.

Lance: I got to give out your email address. Remember, I did it in Jerusalem. I gave out Gordon’s address in Jerusalem.

Gordon: Wow. And I didn’t know that until the next day and I wondered why my inbox blew up.That was a really interesting story by the way. The whole Sampson image. I was quite crest fallen and devastated. This was what, 3, 4 weeks before the election.

Lance: Gordon was the one that called me to tell me while I was in Jerusalem that the Access Hollywood video.

Gordon: That Billy Bush the interview.

Lance: Billy Bush that that would all and I said, well, how bad is it? And then Gordon proceeded to read me from the transcript. I said, oh my god, that’s how bad.

Gordon: Well, I sent you an email thinking, is there any recourse? Is there any hope now? I mean, these were truly embarrassing.

Lance: Yeah, I was right. I was reading email. I thought I was talking to you but it’s actually your email.

Gordon: Yeah, that was an interesting time.

Lance: But I mentioned, I read your email live and I thought maybe it would just console a few thousand people. It went to like 3 million.

Gordon: It was a very interesting time.

Lance: Go to ask Lancewallnau.com. And go there and make a comment and say Ask Gordon about this”, because Gordon is our kind of our man at large out there. He’s in there. He’s an embedded correspondent journalist and ninja sheep. I’m talking to a guy today who is doing gold/silver analysis because we’re seeing everybody knows about the economic challenges we’ve got. Two things I want to tell my people out there that are listening.

One is if you haven’t gone to Lancewallnau.com/Birch and download it. The 21 page article on insights into what’s happening with gold/silver, and why it is that it is adjusting the global economy and that it’s the safest place to be in the judgment that coming apparently on the American Economic System. You’re not doing your homework and you’re not preparing yourself for the future. So I’m encouraging you. Go to Lancewllnau.com/Birch. Download the report. Analyze what’s happening and ask God to give you wisdom as to what you can do.

So go to Lancewallnau.com/Birch. Thank you very much.

Gordon: It’s great to be with you.

Lance: We’ll be back again.

Gordon: Until our next cup of coffee.

Lance: In the near future until our next cup of coffee.

Gordon: Peace out.

Lance: Ciao. Byebye.

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