Revealing The Unseen Twist On The Tribulation

Intro: The Lance Wallnau Show is coming at you live from the Master himself with a special broadcast taken from one of Lance’s most recent appearances. Tune in and get ready for some major revelation. 

Lance: So, let me say this. Andrew and I, interesting if you study the feel of convergence which is what I’d love to talk about. I think I’m going to probably get this course somehow in to Karis. It’s I coach Christians to go become peak performers in the domain that God assigned to them. Let me say to a lot of out there. Something I’ve noticed about a lot of my tribe here that overlaps so well with wealth builders and we cares. We are people who have no desire really to engage this world and this world system. We have become infatuated with Jesus. We love God and we want with all our heart and soul to be able to go into that direction. I, myself, you may think that I’m a smart person because I’ll use words now and then that’ll impress people but the reality is I have to be honest about this. I was an underperforming student with a learning disability. And I was flunking out of every school I was ever in. And when I got saved, I found out in James that if any man lacks wisdom.

Now if you’ve been mocked your whole life for being stupid. You can’t graduate. My father’s a lawyer and an engineer. Two brothers of mine are professors. And I was the dumb kid in the family. Everybody’s laughing about. So, I’m just really stupid. And when I found out in the book of James that you pray for wisdom. I mean, that’s like giving a desperate man. It’s like some emaciated guy with nobody, so that he can look like Captain America. My biggest desire was I pray to God I could have wisdom. So, I prayed for wisdom and whatever facility I have with concepts and ideas and communication is because God gave me an answer to that prayer. He gave me wisdom and I’m some saying that.

Now, you could say, now if it’s a healing gift, people could see it and if it’s prosperity people can see it. But somehow people feel awkward about saying, oh yeah, God gave me wisdom, but it’s true. I know that because of the stupid things I can do when I’m not operating in wisdom. That’s my wife about that. I can’t find a car in a parking lot, but I could tell you how to do what Godcalled you to do and do it with accuracy. I can tell you how to build a business. I can tell you how to get elected. And what Andrew is in our field of what we call Leadership Emergence Theory. This is a theory that I taught in the master. I actually teach it in college in university. Taught a master’s degree class with Bobby who is a student of Four Theological Seminary, who studied this concept which I wanted to just drop on you real quick because it’s probably I don’t know, if it’s going to be it’s probably a third year concept for Karis, but it probably could be in the first year.

It’s that convergence theory says that, God designed you with certain gifts, talents and abilities so that you have an assignment or a calling that matches your design. And in the area where you lack such as me intellectual capacity, you can see God and God will augment your natural capacity with a supernatural acumen to compliment you, so that even though you may seem in the natural like you can’t do it, God will give you by grace the ability to do what you cannot do.Your gifts, talents, and abilities plus the supernatural enablement of God produces a capacity for convergence, converges is when you’re doing the thing God created you to do. And the research that Bobby Clinton had, 20% of the body of Christ actually gets into convergence. That’s 20%, not a mankind, but 20% of Christians seeking to fulfill their destiny. 80% don’t get there, 20% do. And he based that on the fact that he interviewed people that were peak performers in their assigned field to see whether or not they felt they were doing what God had called them to do and/or he just interviewed basically he had fuller theological seminary. So, he had a large cadre of people.

He observed Rick Warren in pastoring John Maxwell in leadership development. All these people were students that Clinton was a student and he was studying Leadership Emergence Theory. I’m saying that because Andrew Womack is what you call a stylized practitioner. That means it’s one of a kind that doesn’t come off the mold of somebody else’s printing press. They created their own unique brand identity. Stylized practitioner, but what you are is what you attract. Not surprisingly, he will attract a tribe of stylized practitioners. That means what you’re called to do probably doesn’t have an exact model for you to follow but if you follow the principles that he’s working with, you’ll find your own style and your own field to practice in. Does that make sense?

I know that because I’m a stylized practitioner. Nobody in any of the revival circles I was in ever want to ever. I was ever invited to the party. I was called like an odd duck. Everybody else is like all about revival, revival, revival. I’m talking 7 Mountains. They’re talking about going to heaven. I’m talking about occupying planet Earth and it’s like really weird. They’re talking about revival. I’m talking about Donald Trump. Keep an eye on media. Fake news. Fake news. Watch what happens. This guy’s a wrecking ball. Cyrus, Gaza, you better keep an eye on government, government control. I would be talking about something no revival community want to talk about but then after I proved to be right, I was invited to all their events. Figure that one out. But then I was too to handle because when you are stylized practitioner, you’re hoping that your peers will love you but they didn’t get you here so you’re not looking for their approval to keep you here.

So, what you’re pursuing is convergence but the thing that makes, Annabelle, the thing that makes. You’re on my mind, honey. Yes. My wife, she is one of the most unusual people you’ll ever meet. She gets more excited during offerings at other people’s ministries. She’s so excited about the giving here in these meetings that I feel like I’m disappointing her if I don’t pick a big number. Because she won’t, she goes, ‘Are you getting a number?’

Now, I’ll be honest with you. It’s going to reveal a little intimate moment here. I said last night, I said, ‘5.’ She goes, ‘5.’ And I knew right away, I overshot the runway. I said, ‘500.’ She goes, she thought it was 5000. My gosh, that’s, you should be married to that every day. You see, I feel always convicted like I’m being stingy and I’m giving more than I ever gave in my life. I’m coming along. Tell you what, but I had a grandma and aunt used to say as, “God made them he matched them”. That was what she used to say and like Annabelle for me was the perfect match for me, because I could be very Jewish and very intellectual and very cerebral. You see things and you can get morose about it because that tends to be a very Jewish thing you’re looking at,which is why Jewish people are so funny. Because they have a great sense of irony because they deal with so much tragedy that everything’s funny. Because when you think about it what is comedy, but it’s the unexpected. So, Jews are good at the unexpected.

But like with my wife I knew that we were perfectly matched when I was driving with her when we were first dating or were we married when I did this? And I said, ‘And I was just thinking about something and it was bothering me and it was making it a bit irritable. She said, What’s wrong with you?’ She’s all happy and bubbly. I said, ‘nothing.’ She goes, ‘Well, no, I know something’s wrong with you.’ I go, ‘Well, I’m just kind of, now, I feel a little bit irritable.’ She goes, ‘Ibaba?’ I go, ‘Irritable.’ She goes, ‘What’s Ibaba?’ I go, ‘Ibaba, what are you talking about Ibaba?’ And that’s when the Lord said, I have designed her so that she doesn’t buy into any of your carnal plans. Should be a disruption.

But I’m saying that because a lot of you’re stylized practitioners you’re eccentric like we are, like my wife, me. Stylist practitioners. How many of you really feel like you never really fit in the crowd? Just put your hand. Look at that, there’s your look at that. It’s like a Nuremberg rally right there. Hallelujah. So many of us just didn’t fit in the crowds that we were in, and so but I want to caution you on this. I was just like you in this sense. I was the rich young ruler who left it all. I didn’t realize this until Ed Seveso told me once, ‘Lance, you’re the rich young ruler’. Oh, he’s right. I was raised vice president of an oil company raised me. Lawyer engineer. I was a bit of a disappointment because the one thing that I really wanted to do was theater. That was my goal in life which is which is kind of odd when you think about it. I was fascinated by entertainment as a field.

I thought if I was insane, I just want to do entertainment. So, my dad thought that wasn’t a serious profession and certainly not a way to make a living. So, he was trailing trying to straighten me out. Send me to a military school. Because I was at terrible grades. Ds and F’s, sent me to a military academy which you got to understand man. Military academy when you’re like 15, 16, 17, 18. It’s hell. It’s like Paris Island for 3 years. It’s Lord of the Flies if you ever read the book. So, I’m in the military. I was so desperately miserable in a structured military viral people with no hair yelling at you all the time. But it was good for me in this sense. It drove me into such desperation that I cried out, Oh God, if there is a God in the universe reveal yourself to me.And one night on that campus a long-haired Jesus free comes on campus. Wanders onto the campus with four spiritual laws. Stands right outside my barracks I’m coming back to my barracks and there’s a pack of people ready to pack snowballs and throw them in. He’s got a poor guy with him over there and they’re throwing snowballs at him. I see this one guy and I came up to him. I said, ‘Oh my gosh, what are you doing here?’ He goes, well, and he starts sharing the gospel with me.

I thought what a loser if I had long hair and jeans, I’d be out there partying with girls. I wouldn’t be stuck on this island over here where I’m at. You’re actually coming here in your free time. I’m trying to get out of here. So, I thought, oh my God you’re really just fanatic I said, what do you got, what do you guys witnessing to him at the Four Spiritual Lost. And now what’s really weird is I got a pack of wolves around me all these little cadets and angry young men that want to be just like me want to get out there and there’s these people that represent freedom jeans and long hair, and they’re pummeling that guy with snowballs. This guy’s talking to me, I thought, you guys see this is getting out of hand here, I’m really for your sake you ought to leave. And the guy goes on, well, he goes, ‘No, I’d rather talk to you.’ And at that moment out of the second story window of Frank Fiermonte’s room, I can still remember it. The most demonized cadets we had somehow gathered it was like all the demons were showing up. And they had a window and they took a garbage can full of water and dumped it out and it hit the guy evangelizing me and I jumped back like this.

Now he’s soaking wet standing there in the middle of freezing cold Valley Forge Pennsylvania where George Washington, barracks in the freezing cold snow. That was where our Cat and Military Academy was he’s soaking wet in Valley Forge Military Academy campus there’s snow like several inches deep. He looks at me with absolute equanimity, poise, and says, ‘This message has resulted in the martyrdom, the drowning, the crucifying, the burning alive of witnesses for 2000 years. I wanted to talk to you if you’re willing to listen.’ Well, all of a sudden, this guy went from being a long-haired religious freak that I felt sorry for to being, like who the heck are you? I mean, I’m in a military academy where they teach leadership. That guy had more courage, conviction, character, and leadership in his long-haired gene condition than I had.

I said, ‘Oh man, I could see right away. I’m starting to come under the influence of this movement.’ I said, ‘Alright, alright, alright. Show me what you got.’ He shows me and then he says to me these words, shows me that decision I have to make about accepting Jesus. I look up and I go, I look at the crowd there packing balls and snowballs going what’s the wall now what you doing. I go, ‘You want me to pray with you?’ He goes, ‘Yeah.’ I go, ‘Here?’ He goes,‘Yeah.’ ‘In front of them?’ ‘He goes, ‘Yes.’ And at that moment and it took that moment, I realized I wasn’t a Christian. Because a lot of people think they’re Christians that aren’t Christians how do you know you’re not a Christian so you actually get convicted. People grow up in America I know I wasn’t a Hindu or a Buddhist, so I figured I’m a Christian. My dad was Jewish and raised me as an Episcopalian that’s confusing right her. So, but I didn’t know he was Jewish back then. So, I said, ‘Okay.’ So, I prayed haltingly not courageously, but I prayed. Enough with enough courage that the grace of God met me and I got born again then.

Now, how I know I got born again is thank God, I had an experience. You don’t have to have an experience because you get saved by faith. But thank God, I had an experience because something came into me right into here boom and reverberate all throughout my whole body and I step back like that. I blinked and I looked at him and go, ‘What was that?’ He said, ‘Jesus just came into your heart.’ I said, ‘oh my gosh.’ I thought it was like a poetry thing like you come in like God‘s in my heart, my mother’s in my heart, Jesus in my heart. He actually came into me. He said, ‘Yes. That’s exactly what happens. You got born again.’ I go, ‘This is crazy, man. I didn’t expect an experience.’

So, the poor other guy’s getting whacked with snowballs and I said, ‘Look you don’t understand this.’ I mean, it’s I’m concerned about you guys and at that moment the military police came we had military police and they grabbed my two evangelists. And the guy says to me the last thing he says to me, he says, ‘I can see you’re going to need some discipling.’ I said, ‘you don’t understand it, it’s a miracle you got on the campus.’ We’ve got armed guards at every gate. This is like a penal column. How do you got here? I don’t know, but I don’t think you’re going to be coming back again. And that guy took off they dragged him off I can see his heel marks in the snow as they took him out on the horizon, and I’m standing there with a four spiritual lost track in my hand. I was totally lost with a four spiritual lost track. To this day I never met that guy again but he was a faithful witness that got me saved and I’ve been to like seventy nations and all around the world.

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Lance: I go home and my dad knew right away now I’m a religious fanatic. I mean my dad sent me to military school to get straighten out and I come home born-again Jesus’ freak. He was really concerned. He thought I need a deprogramming. I said, ‘I don’t think there’s a program who’s going to fix this dad.’ Anyway, I go off to college and I didn’t fit in college, secular university, you can imagine but I was good. I actually got kicked out of the university, because we had a revival. I was getting guys saved and filled with the spirit. We had a prayer meeting in Lancaster County, Manheim, Pennsylvania. We go out there to that prayer meeting come back and so I ended up getting accused of starting a cult on campus and taking advantage of the nervous condition of students during final exams.

Somehow God put me with a sense of irony this, you know me, I’m not the athletic type. The one thing on my wife’s list of what she wanted in a man funny right this all stuff but then it was like athletic. She said, ‘Well, you can’t get everything.’ But I’m entertaining, anyway. So, anyway I got, so I’m off to college. They kicked me out of the college because they said, I was starting a cult and I understand why that rumor started. I had a military uniform. One of them really cool piece of attire in military school is the raincoat. I don’t know if you remember what these lookslike but like West Point has them. It’s like this rubber on the outside. It looks like Batman. It’s like a rubber cape top and then a long down on the bottom and then it said, it’s red canvas on the inside.

So, you almost look like a bishop from Rome and a Batman costume. And it’s the only thing I kept on campus. So, when it was raining out, I would put on my, like my cool military raincoat with the black top and I flip it back over my shoulders, and it was the red canvas and it’s like. So,they thought that I was like Anton Levey taking over the campus but we had holy ghost meetings in my room and we were just like the curse in the campus because they there’d be beer parties in the hall and we’d be in that room praying in the Holy Ghost. I mean I didn’t know much but I knew we’re going to take authority over the devil we’re not going to have any fornicating spirits in here. Man, we just took authority over every demon I could think of and I got the football team saved. That was really what freaked them out. I got the quarterback, the half back, and the center, because for some reason, God sincerely put me with all the athletes and I’m the entertainer. So, I got all saved and they would have beer cake parts in the hall and then we pray until we heard this. “This party stinks”. As soon as I heard this party, we celebrate. Oh,hallelujah. We were like the curse.

Then they try to figure out what was going on. They find out and our rooms packed full. We were like having a party in our room. People would come in and we get them saved. We had one seat where I got people saved on. I don’t know why it was but we put like a prayer napkin underneath the seat and we knew when anyone sat in that seat. We call it the Holy Ghost hot seat. They get convicted. They’d come in checking us out, checking out the cult movement and then the center would be praying and it was name is Mongo, based on Blazing Saddles or something like that. But these guys are Joe Beasley who was backslid from Pittsburgh.

Now, Neil’s Forsberg, he was like the star athlete on the football team. We got him safe. He thought I was a drug runner. Because I go to these Holy Ghost meetings and off the campus, these prayer meetings and I come back with my Bible and I come back and he’s me coming back and he’d run into me in the hallway. He’d see my eyes all lit up and I’m all like I’m jacked up on some drug or something. So, one day he stops me he goes, ‘Hey, hey, hey Lance I’m on to your game.’ I go, ‘What’s that Neil?’ He goes, ‘I know what you’re doing.’ ‘What am I doing Neil?’He goes, ‘You’re taking off all the time. I see you hop in those cars take off then you come back,the Bible. I know what you got.’ ‘What do you mean Neil?’ ‘The drugs are in the Bible.’ It’s okay. I won’t tell a soul. Because he was a dealer on the campus. He thought I was his competition. I go, ‘No Neil.’

By the way, I met him at one of Karis event. He came to a Karis event. So, he comes up. He goes, ‘It’s true, isn’t it?’ I go, ‘No, Neil. I mean, I’m going to a Bible study and prayer meeting.’He goes, ‘Right, right. Okay, it’s cool. Let me see the Bible.’ I hand the Bible. He was like befuddled. You know, pages. He’s looking through it like, where’s the compartment? It’s like, line upon line. Precept the Palm precept. So, he goes, ‘Are you for real?’ He goes, ‘You’re high as a kite.’ I go, ‘I am Neil. I really am. It’s the Holy Ghost.’ ‘Holy what?’ I said, ‘Come on into my room.’ Get him saved. Get him filled with the spirit. Now, it was no wonder I became a target on campus. I was getting all the celebrities saved. Then, I got kicked off and I realized something that I could pray for wisdom but I wasn’t doing so good academically. But I love that idea of prayer because I was bored with classes. The classes all seem stupid.

Now, I’m trying to tell you something. I’m trying to go somewhere for a reason. I only want to be like Andrew. I just want to have the word and just be an evangelist, soul winner, missionary, Bible, it’s all to do and the world I had a contempt for the world system. Because the whole world lies in the power of the evil one and I can see very quickly I was raised in affluence raised in with academics and all that stuff and I remember my one of my favorite verses. That “Which is highly esteemed in the sight of men is an abomination in the sight of God”. That’s such a great verse when people are trying to throw at you, you need to get your degree, you need to get your make a living. That which is highly esteemed in the sight of men is an abomination in the sight of God.

I felt sanctified when I quoted that, but then I found out that I was the perfect candidate for Godto give us & Mountain revelation too, because I was a rich young ruler. I left it all. I worked for my dad in the oil business and I actually worked for him for a while in the oil business and I made great money in the oil business. But then I got convicted one day that I really didn’t want to do that. I really wanted this where Annabelle and I were dating and she got saved and filled with the spirit.

Now, she’s a story because her parents and my parents are like best friends. So, her parents, my Doctor Naples and mister Wall. My dad had the oral company. Her dad was a doctor obstetrician, gynecologist, and everybody knew Doctor Naples and we were in Levittown, Pennsylvania. They were GIs that came over after World War two and kind of built America and Annabelle was their daughter and my mom wanted me to get together with one of the Naples girls, because she had these sisters and I have two brothers. She was always trying to mix and match almost trying to figure out how to get us together, and we knew what she was up to. We were always entertained because we all like the family. The families were and then she heard that I became a Jesus freak and was regretting the fact that I was such a great guy and then I became religious.

Then I went over to connect with, well, actually my mother was a large part of it. I don’t want to go into the personal story here, but I had a date with a switchboard operator in my dad’s oil company. I wasn’t that sanctified at that time; I like Holly Berryman. Holly Berryman was a switchboard operator I was single and I can remember, well I like Holly and I invite her over to my parents’ house for my dad used to have these cocktail parties. I thought, why don’t you come over to one of my dad’s parties and we’ll hang out. And my mother told me to break the date with that bimbo because Doctor Naples is going to bring one of his daughters over. My mom interfered with all my plans and she said, Annabelle’s going to come over. So, Annabelle came over and the night that Annabelle came over we just became like best friends that night. We were best friends; she says we were dating I didn’t know it. We were best friends for like two or three years, because I like being with her more than anybody else. She was more fun. If you ever hang around with her, she’s a lot of fun.

But she lived in a house that was haunted. Her parents were trying to sell this house. It was like in the 1600s William Penn built it or William Penn Gardner put the estate there. It’s a big house how many rooms is that? 18 rooms. So, she’s all by herself in that great big house in that and when she got saved all the demons manifested in the house. So, I mean I come over there and say, hey, we don’t talk to her and also, I hear door slamming in the house. I go, ‘What’s that?’She goes, ‘Oh, it’s them.’ I go, ‘Who’s them?’ She goes, ‘Them. The spirits. They don’t like you. They don’t like this Jesus thing either.’ I go, ‘What?’ I hear boom doors and she’s yelling, ‘Shut up.’ I said, okay.

Now, I’m talking about our eccentric tribe just to give you some background here. So, I go, ‘How can you shut up at demons? You have to take authority over them in the name of Jesus. I’ll show you how to do it.’ ‘The name of Jesus, I bind you shall I manifest.’ Look doors kept slamming I thought I was very humiliated right then I thought well maybe these are old spirits I got to take a little more fasting and prayer time. Get my Lester Summeral teaching out here. See what I got todo. Anyway, so I had an old Pentecostal, cranky, old Pentecostal pastor that I love who was my first pastor and he was kind of tough. He was like a marine. He was the right kind of guy to have as my first pastor. He couldn’t pastor a big church. He only had 7 people but I was one of them. He get weed in the crowd out, because he said, everybody’s full of compromise. Everybody’s carnal and so he kept, that’s really not how you build a following every everybody So, he’d always tell me, what you got to be? You’re going to be one of those country club Christians. That’s what you’re going to be. Okay, I’m not going to be a country, because I was trying to be like a real marine back then.

Anyway, when I went into business in the oil business making all that money, he and I fell out of fellowship because he thought I was walking away from God and pursuing worldly affairs. I really was. I was trying to get away from him. But I got convicted, because he’s the only pastor I really knew. I didn’t have a whole lot. There’re only 8 churches in Levittown, Pennsylvania back then and he’s the only pastor I knew and I felt convicted because I made all this money and I used to tithe and I used to support our little church. I was the guy who paid the bills for the church, so I left. So, Lord convicted me.

Now, here’s the funny thing. When you get backslid and people get right delivery, you have an altar call now you’re backslid. Now you don’t have to do this but you want to talk about your conscience. I was backslid for like about a year. I really was. It was like, I wasn’t going to church. I’ll just bury myself in business and gotten to work and I didn’t know, because I had all that legal so everywhere I went I was poisoned they were all compromised. So, I got cut myself off from healthy fellowship over Christians, because I was always critical, nobody was ever dedicated pure and holy enough, including me. So, I turned on myself. I said, ‘You’re probably going to hell yeah you probably better bury yourself at work man. It’s a painful thought, you’re going to hell.’

So, after I got, the Lord, I got reconnected with the Lord Annabelle get saved filled with the spirit. I want him victory to go meet Annabelle, I want her to get filled with the holy ghost and get connected I didn’t know where to go I’m just going back to my roots with my old pastor and I felt like I had not tithe in a year so I owed baptized. How about that for conviction? It’s like the Lord said, ‘Well, you were walking away for a whole year, weren’t you?’ I said, ‘Yes, sir.’ So, ‘But you weren’t even giving for a whole year, were you?’ I said, ‘No, sure.’ Lord said, ‘Well, what we going to do about that?’

Now, you’re hearing God when God tells you to pay your back tithe. Most Christians wouldn’t even think about that. They think, oh, let’s start right here. My Jewish forefathers came back in my DNA and said, you owe the Lord something. And so, I put all his cash in an attaché case, almost like a drug deal. I got all his cash. It was all years’ worth of tithes and I called up my dear old pastor who never saw that much money in his life. Legalistic sweet man of God that he was and he really was just, he was like the great Santini. He was just not meant to pastor that was all.He comes over and meets me, I flip open the briefcase it’s loaded stacked with cash. First time in my life, I saw him break out crying he had never seen that in his life. He said, ‘My God, who was this for?’ I goes, ‘For you, man. It’s my back time, I’ve been backslid. I owe you this. I owe and you got to steward this for the kingdom now it’s out off of my hands it’s in your hands.’ And he broke down and cried

Well, that was a beautiful moment for me and for him and he comes again says, ‘Well, I still want you to meet Annabelle.’ So, he comes to meet Annabelle. He walks into the house and he freezes at the door, because he had discerning the spirits. He really was kind of unusual guy. He could see the two spirits that were in her house that were slamming the doors. And so, he comes and he goes, whoa. He stops he says, I don’t know if I’m coming in, and I’m standing there I don’t see a thing I’m going, what are you talking about? You got that far, you drove all the way from Lancaster walk in. He goes, ‘I think we have some company here.’

There’s Annabelle sitting there and got a little flower in her head and you know and hippie salt as she is. She goes, ‘So you see him?’ I don’t know what they’re talking about. I go, ‘See, what?’‘He goes yeah, I see him.’ And Annabelle’s checking him out. She goes, ‘Oh yeah, chewing gum.’ ‘What do they look like?’ He goes, ‘Well, one of them looks like Abe Lincoln there with a top hat and the other one looks like a shape like a Christmas tree with a little pin head.’ She goes,‘Yes, that’s them.’ I don’t know what either of them are talking about. I can’t see them. I don’t know what you’re talking about. All I know is he sees them. She goes, ‘Yeah, that’s them.’Because her family, they’re, it’s familiar spirits. This is weird. All her families, these professors, prince to professors, record professors, Philadelphia Colleges. They’re all bunch of professors.Yeah, they saw those spirits in that house. I don’t know how they reconcile that now with being intellectual but their spirit. They knew what they look like in their family. They show up like the grandmother talked to them.

So, anyway, we ended up having to get rid of those spirits. You want to know how we did it? Ever have Alexander Scurry? I had the Bible. The Bible on tape and since, I couldn’t get those spirits to shut up. I would I told them, I said, ‘I’m going to marinate you night and day with the word of God.’ This is crazy, huh? I put Alexander Kirby, sucking on the law of the talks like this and he would do narrating the New Testament in a perfect British accent, and Jesus went to the land of Sidon and crossed over into Gennesaret and there he was met by two fast demons. So, I put it on. It was one of those reversible cassette players. So, just play 24 hours a day and Annabelle and I go to work. We marinate that house with Alexander Kirby and the King James version of the Bible for 24 hours a day.

We change the tape every day just to give a little variety on the scripture. Want to make sure they had the whole council of God. You want to know what happened? Took 7 days. By the 7th day, not a peep. I said, ‘Hello. Hello. Hello.’ They were like, ‘Shut up. Don’t say a thing.’ So, he stopped marinating with the word of God and then we ended up having to sell that place but when you start off like that, there’s no such thing as a normal life. That’s my point. So, I go to Annabelle and go now, ‘Honey, you have to understand something. I’m going to be mentoring you now. I’ve been around this thing longer than you. I’m going to teach you a few things. We’re going to have to live by faith, and I know that this will be a surprise to you but we’re going to have to believe God because once I leave that oil company thing, it’s going to be trusting God. I want you guys some got some Hagen things here in Copeland things. I want you to be meditating.’ She goes, ‘Oh yeah, I know about that.’ I go, ‘Yeah, you know all about that. I’m talking about in God for rent, believe in God for everything.’ She goes, ‘Yeah, yeah, yeah, I did that already.’ I go, ‘You didn’t do that already? I just led you to the Lord.’ She goes, ‘Oh no, no.’She goes, ‘I understand what you’re talking about. I don’t know how this works but I get it. Because when I was in college, my roommate was a Jamaican witch and we put a spell on our landlord and he never collected our rent.’

So, wait a second. Because I was paying my pastor’s rent for like 5 years with my tithe. I knew how hard it was to get God to show up and pay the bill if it wasn’t working, right? I said, ‘Let me get this straight. Where were you living again?’ She said, ‘Right there in Benefit Street, that beautiful apartment overlooking Providence, Rhode Island. It was the former hospital converted into an apartment conference. We had the top room with the skylights where they did surgery. We just took authority over.’ I said, ‘Who’s the landlord?’ ‘It was Sid Blazer. The stingiest Jewish landlord in Providence.’ Now, I know it’s a miracle. Sid, so, what happened? She goes, ‘Well, we put a spell on him. He never collected rent because we bound his mind.’ So, I think I get a little bit of how this work. I mean, I did the same thing but I mean, I get it. Oh my God. This is bizarre. She’s got more faith for God to pay the rent than me.

So, ‘I said, well, what did you do? What happened?’ She goes, ‘Well, I got convicted. So, I told Sid. I go, Sid, I feel sorry about this. I put a spell on. He never collected my rent.’ He goes, thathe left. That’s ridiculous. Couple minutes later, knocking on the door. Hey, you owe me a lot of money. He went back and checked that out. She said, ‘I know sin. Remember, I told you. I put the spell on you.’ This is a crazy chapter if you think about it. So, she went home because she was in debt and she had to get her life together. That’s how come she was in proximity to me when I was home and my parents were able to connect us together, and she was the one. I always prayed about certain things. I prayed for three things that God would give me as perfect will in marriage, perfect thing in ministry, and perfect thing in work.

At that point in time, I didn’t have a concept about work, because I thought as many of you that my goal was to escape the world system and just live in the spirit. And that’s why I want to get real quick in my last couple of minutes on this worldview about the 7 Mountains of culture. Because it makes sense that God would give me that, because I’m the guy that was like I left the money and the family to go live by faith and moved out and try to do this thing as a totally dedicated evangelist for revival. Just thinking soul winning was the only thing that was important and evangelism. So, I pulled myself out of the world system, seeing the world system as all of the enemy, and that was when I think the Lord began to open up my eyes to say, I want you to present a fresh paradigm to the church regarding the world and the kingdom. Because too many of my people are disengaged from the occupation.

I mean, here’s looking for the call of God and if the devil can convince you that God doesn’t want you in business, God doesn’t want you in media, God doesn’t want you in arts. If you see it all as the world system and you’re trying to escape it, you’re never going to go into it.

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