Mind-blowing Verse Exposes That God Was The First Nationalist

Lance: Welcome to the Lance Wallnau Show and I’m so excited today. I am like ready to scream out of my skin, because we’re going to do some subjects I never get into. We’re going to look. The arts and entertainment field is prophesying plainly that it’s as though what is in the atmosphere is showing up in the media. But sometimes it takes another perspective for us to see what’s happening. Jonathan Scheck has been a friend of mine, entrepreneur, businessman, consultant. And an all-round global traveler who I’ve run into in the strangest place. I’m meeting him here in Waxahachie Texas although I think we’ve been together in Singapore and in Jerusalem and in Europe. I mean, we run into each other at in where was I? Oh yeah, it was in Asia. 

So, Jonathan, you have got to share with the folks. The sequence of Power Ranger movies is going on. I had never, it was right in my face and I missed it, but the arts world and this year these are a lot of Asian arts projects too. Which we’re now like the world is knit together. East and West, it’s you can’t avoid it we’re all we are a one world economy. So, talk to me about what’s being prophesied in the movie and gaming industry.

Jonathan Scheck: Very good. Well, I like to first take you to the Transformers movies. There have been 6 movies so far and the 7th one is coming out next year.

Lance: Transformers, okay.

Jonathan Scheck: And the first movie Transformers, that’s a title. The second movie, Transformers, Revenge of the Fallen. It’s like revenge of the fallen angels.

Lance: Revenge of the fallen, yes, angels, okay.

Jonathan Scheck: Right. And the third movie is called Transformers Dark of the Moon. What is Dark of the Moon? Dark of the Moon is the three days that the moon is not visible from the earth. And what is that? What happens in the dark of the moon? That’s witchcraft, rituals, sorcery, and what do they do? Global warming. Climate change. And then the next movie, the 4thmovie Transformers Age of Extinction. That’s like the Dying Earth.

Lance: Because we’re all going extinct, because of global warming, climate change and or plagues and pandemics.

Jonathan Scheck: So, that’s this great desire by a lot of people to save humanity from extinction. They think that we’re all going to die if they don’t do something, right.

Lance: Right.

Jonathan Scheck: That’s why you have the Paris accords. That’s why you have all these.

Lance: That’s why you have Bill Gates so zealously working with Cloud Schwab because we have to save the world from itself. It’s going to destroy itself.

Jonathan Scheck: So all these people that are helping to prevent the Earth from extinction. Helping to prevent humanity from extinction believe that whatever they do whatever means they do it’s for the betterment of the human race.

Lance: Alright keep going. I’m going to come back to that in a minute. We got, was it the Trans,was it the last of the Transformers?

Jonathan Scheck: Hold on the 5th movie Transformers the Last Knight. The Last Knight is spelt in the movies KNIGHT, but the actual meaning is the Last Night, NIGHT. The great one-timeblackout and then you have the great reset.

Lance: The great blackout and then the great reset.

Jonathan Scheck: Yes, and of course there’s a 6th movie called Bumblebee which well I don’t think means very much. But the 7th.

Lance: I always want to throw you off right there in the prophetic sequence.

Jonathan Scheck: But the seventh movie transformers the Rise of The Beast. Plural not singular, Beast. Plural, Rise of the Beast.

Lance: That’s the next one?

Jonathan Scheck: That’s the one next year. Next year they’re having this movie Rise of the Beast.

Lance: On land and on sea. Because it’s going to be, the beast rises up out of the ocean and out of the people. So that’s the Transformer series.

Jonathan Scheck: Yeah, and let’s talk about Jurassic, right. The last movie, Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom. So, we are now in this Fallen Kingdom. And what comes out of this fallen kingdom? This year now playing in the cinemas, Jurassic World Dominion. World Dominion.

Lance: We have a phone kingdom followed by World Dominion.

Jonathan Scheck: That’s right. There you go.

Lance: These themes are kind of like really obvious. Now that you’re mentioning them.

Jonathan Scheck: Right.

Lance: But this this this idea about what’s going on with the globalist. Talk about the global,because I’m saying that we have to update our radar. We’re in the west. Michelle Bachman was pointing out how we almost have this legislation with the World Health Organization. That was going to put all the nations in in subordination based to the WHO’s ability to define and to warn and alert about pandemics with some kind of economic consequence that the World Banks would impose if a nation was irresponsible in not locking down in accordance with the warning of the World Health Organization. Well, hit the US and there was an immediate alarm that went out sufficient. So, that there were seven senators that said, time out. You cannot engage our government in submission to a surrender of sovereignty by executive order no matter who’s president the senate has to agree that’s a treaty.

Jonathan Scheck: That’s right.

Lance: So, Michelle Bachman. I listen to her; she’s running the school of government for Region University now.

Jonathan Scheck: That’s right, yes.

Lance: She said, if your paradigm is left wing right wing, it’s not sufficient.

Jonathan Scheck: No.

Lance: You now need to be asking are you a nationalist or a globalist. You could be going to a conservative right wing pro-life pro-Christian globalist who is not protecting your religious liberty is going to put it into this one world system. This is a serious distinction because globalism versus nationalism, and I’m curious about this because Singapore is in Asia. It’s really a small country, but a very powerful one. How do you avoid over there the danger of like becoming like a Hong Kong? I know that you haven’t been given to China. But how do you maintain your sovereignty as a nation when you’ve got these huge systems in your backyard?

Jonathan Scheck: You ask a very relevant question and a very important question for Singaporeans. So ever since Singapore was founded in 1965 by Prime Minister Lee Kwan Yu,we took the position that we are not neutral because we had big forces all around us. We had the US, we had China, we have Indonesia in the South, Malaysia in the North. So, we took the of being principle. Principle is different from neutral, right. If you are neutral, you get pushed a bit to the left, you get squeezed to the left. You get pushed a bit to the right, you get squeezed to the right. So it’s like when you’re neutral when either side moves, your position moves as well. But if you are principle, that is you stick to this principle. Sometimes you can, you have to offend both the left and the right, but you stick to your principles and people respect you for that.

So that was how Singapore was founded and that was how Singapore survived through the decades by all big giants around us that wanted us to do this, wanted us to do that. But we stood to the fact that, okay these are our principles and whatever happens if you tell us that, like for example there was a case of an American kid that was Kane because he was vandalizing stuff.But there was also a Hong Kong kid that was Kane at the same time. So, if you have the same principle, you can’t change your position because one country says this and another country says that. So, that’s how Singapore navigated the seventy the 80s, the nineties, all the way to the 21st century. So, that’s one thing but I want to bring back to your subject of globalism and nationalism.

Lance: Yeah.

Jonathan Scheck: Now the enemy was the first globalist because they wanted to build the tower of Babel and God was the first nationalist because he created the nations after the Tower of Babel. So, that’s my position. God’s a nationalist.

Lance: Yeah, very interesting.

Jonathan Scheck: Enemy is a globalist.

Lance: I agree with that 1 hundred percent. How that crystallized for me, Jonathan? I was reading the book of Acts where Paul is in Athens. He’s saying that, God has made out of one blood all the nations of the earth and has set the times of their habitation and their boundaries.

Jonathan Scheck: There you go.

Lance: That they should seek after him. And though they’re like groping so that they could find him. And I realized God set nations in time, in history and he gave them geographic boundaries for their dominion. And that’s it. God’s a nation creator, he creates and he raises them up and he takes them down and we could see the succession of God judging nations and shrinking empires too.

Jonathan Scheck: There you go. But what most Christians misunderstand is that they think that God is like wants everybody together. Now the Bible says this, Jesus always was about unity. The word that Christians should be using is unity. Not globalism. Unity. And I want to bring one thing as well. That we must also differentiate between international trade and globalism. International trade is biblical. Read Ecclesiastes chapter 11 verse 1. It talks about, you go you go and trade, you go out to see and trade and you reap a reward, right?. That’s it’s biblical principle. International trade is a biblical principle. But globalism that’s a control that’s a one world control big brother, big government thing. That’s totally different from international trade. So international trade is a biblical principle. Globalism is of the enemy.

Lance: Very interesting. That’s huge. Because the globalist view of the marketplace is trading all over the world. It’s a world without borders for products. But it’s a world with borders for identity.

Jonathan Scheck: There you go.

Lance: And that’s a very important distinction. So there’s a great book by a Jewish writer. I don’t know if you’ve seen it. It’s is it called what’s it called? The Virtue of Nationalism. The point he made is that the spirit of beast is a little. That language is a bit apocalyptic in Pentecostal but it’s from an academic point of view as a professor. He said, it’s the spirit of empire. Empire assimilates other countries. It doesn’t respect boundaries. Whereas sovereign nations have boundaries and respect boundaries and can work together like locking shields. Like in the movie Gladiator where we will lock our shield with yours. We will work together.

Jonathan Scheck: Right.

Lance: You have a boundary. I have a boundary, but I will join with you. The allies work where fighting against the access. The access from Japan wanting the entire Asian landmass. Germany wanting all of Europe and here we come with the allies. They went back after they won everyone to their own geographic domain. America didn’t, it didn’t take over it in a sense it tried to rebuild democracy in the nations. So, I think that this idea of empire and sovereign nations is going to take a while for Christians to get. Because we tend to look at the beast as the anti-Christ, the one world government, and the mark. They don’t recognize that the fingerprints of the beast is the spirit of empire. It’s where we don’t recognize boundaries and we assimilate you into our system,because that’s what’s happening with the global economy.

We’re already assimilating into a one-world system. It’s happening with world health with those institutes assimilating that’s the fingerprints of the beast system and most people don’t recognize it because it’s not that. What do you see happening in the body of Christ globally? One final question. You travel around. You’ve got a good pulse from the entrepreneurial perspective, but you also work with leading evangelists that work in their domain. Where do you see the church at and is it all pretty much equal around the world? Are you seeing some parts of the world a little more alert than others?

Jonathan Scheck: Well in the persecuted church, I mean there are seven churches in the Book of Revelation, right.

Lance: Right.

Jonathan Scheck: Well, I see that there’s going to be more unity among the seven churches. I also see that the first century church model of the book of Acts. The decentralized church where you have a centralized apostolic leadership and many home churches. We see that happening growing in the persecuted church in the countries where Christianity is being persecuted. We see that growing and we see more unity among we’re going to see more unity because everything is so connected nowadays. So what’s going to happen I believe is as we move into these troubled times we will find the church being forced into unity, because we have to be united.

Lance: But you’re saying that unity. I caught what you said. Unity is increasing and I’m looking at sheep and goat nations. I’m putting that language.

Jonathan Scheck: Totally agree.

Lance: And we are out in the body of Christ right now and I’m saying that those sovereign nations are the nations that will protect the religious identities of their minorities. They’re Christians and Jews especially, because Spirit of anti-Christ historically hates Israel and hates Christians. So, are you seeing, Cindy Jacobs said something earlier? She said, there are sheep nations that look like they’re moving towards goat and there are surprising nations that are goat nations you might be surprised to see will end up sheep. I actually think it’s true. Are you seeing any nations we should be keeping an eye on that are slipping one way or the other?

Jonathan Scheck: Well, I would say that Europe is a place to keep an eye on, because a lot of the nation’s look like they have become full-blown goat nations but watch what god is doing to some of these European nations. Because they will surprise you when they become sheep nations again.

Lance: Hallelujah and especially I would say, those that were on the eastern part of Europe that came out of communism in the 1990s. Their memory It’s like the Cubans that we have in Florida are like 28% more zealous for capitalism and conservative values than the Latinos coming from Mexico who are at 40% more enthusiasm. The movements all in the right direction. But those that came out of communism directly from Cuba they’re the most aggressive about resisting it. Hungary, Poland, Slovakia, the Eastern Europe nations are out of step with the rest of the EU,because they’re rejecting the LGBTQ mandate that that’s almost like a vaccination. Like you have to have that in your education system.

Victor Orban and the President Poland saying, no, necessarily we don’t choose to do that. So,they’re on that collision course but that’s where you’re seeing it’s going to expand. It’s only going to get stronger. And I think you’re right. I think that the where the martyrs have shed their blood.England, France, Germany. I think that the blood has a voice and we’re going to see God raise up a witness.

Jonathan Scheck: Keep your eyes on the UK.

Lance: Yeah.

Jonathan Scheck: It’s going to surprise you.

Lance: I think so. I think so. I’ve always felt that the lion must roar again. The land of Whitfield, the land of Wesley, the land of Wilberforce.

Jonathan Scheck: The land of Reese Howells.

Lance: Reese Howells, that’s exactly right. Smith Wigglesworth. We have numbers of them.

Jonathan Scheck: That’s right.

Lance: And so, I’m going to end with this this thought as you’ve been hearing this conference. Has there been any one thought so far that’s been coming to you that you feel is more important than others or one idea that you’ve got, one burden that you’ve got? If you could imprint one message this assembly of consultants, what would it be?

Jonathan Scheck: Well, it struck me that you said the same word about discipleship. I feel that discipleship is very very important for now. For this time and this age. Discipleship because of what’s going on around in the schools, the work system, and everywhere. This discipleship for individuals and for nations is more important now than ever. That’s my takeaway.

Lance: I agree with you. I think that there’s a change in the atmosphere right now and I sense it.And if I get a chance to speak tonight, I’m going to hit it hard that I got it from apostle JB from Brazil.

Jonathan Scheck: Yeah.

Lance: I had to go to Brazil to get a word for the United. It’s always happens. I leave the country to go find what god’s saying. And he said a year ago, I said, what if it’s going to happen like in Brazil, because they have Bolsonaro. I met with his president and I like him. I said, ‘What’s going to happen?’ He said, ‘I believe God controls time and that is Joshua said to the son of the moon stand still. He commanded them to stand still because he had to fight the Amalekites or yeah I think it was Amalekites’. So, he held the sun and the moon Because he needed more time. And he said, ‘I think God is going to give the gift of time so that we can do the battle we have to do. He’s not going to fight for us but he’ll fight with us.’

Jonathan Scheck: Absolutely.

Lance: And so we’re on that time where God’s giving us this moment. And I think we’re going to recover ground.

Jonathan Scheck: Alright.

Lance: So Jonathan thank you so much for joining us. We was in season and out of season. That’s the way you are. Appreciate that. Jonathan Scheck. Who I was going to tell you how to get in touch with him? But he is a ninja. You cannot get in touch with him. You can only discover him when he pops up prophetically in interviews like this but you can get in touch with me, he told me and I’ll get a message to him. So, just do the usual “Asklancenow.com” and I’ll get your question to Jonathan. God bless you. We’ll see you tomorrow.

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