Man Born Without Arms or Legs Fights For You!

Lance: Very seldom do I have show individuals that have ministered to and preached the gospel to like 50 million people. Nick Vujicic is one of those guys. A remarkable man without arms, without legs. He has started banks, built businesses is now doing film and documentaries and telling powerful stories. Once you meet a guy like this, you realize anything is possible and you’ve got no excuses for why you’re not living life to the fullest. Along with him, I have a man who votes in the Academy Awards for movies. My friend Rick Eldridge and Rick has done like 30 movies so far. Fascinating guy and I was like to talk about the academy, what’s going on with the academy awards and but I wanted Tim to talk to you about what the movie and film and producing business is like. I want you to hear from a practitioner. Around me, all around me, hear all the noise of construction. God is in the business of building and making movies and he wants you to be a part of all of that and in order to do that, I want you to be able to protect your identity. Express VPN is where I go. “Lancewallnau.com/ExpressVPN” and the reason why you want to go there is because when I travel, I don’t want anyone to know who I am. I want to have some freedom and anonymity. I don’t want to be starved. I don’t want someone to get my data and besides that, I want access to all kinds of movies and entertainment that are restricted. You can do a work around with “Lancewallnau.com/ExpressVPN”. Tell them I sent you. God bless. 

Welcome, welcome back to the Lance Wallnau Show and this is an amazing experience I’m having here because unlike my Dallas studio where it’s, I’m not saying. It’s just me hanging out in my Dallas studio. I get people like Nick Vujicic stopping by, Eric Metaxas stopping by, Baron Maguire. Interesting people just landing here in this vacant chair and I just tell my staff is it find the most interesting people and give me an appointment with them. So now Nick I’m glad you’re here and you have so much you do. Because you’re not only one of the most dynamic communicators I’ve ever heard.

Nick Vujicic: Oh wow. Praise God. Love you.

Lance: It’s I have to tell you the truth. I was complaining yesterday. Because I do a pretty good job of getting a message out. And you guys hear me here on TV or this program. I’m more animated on my feet. But when Nick or these other guys follow me, I lost the impression I was trying to make as Alaska impression gets changed into whatever he’s talking about. I don’t care what he’s talking about. That’s the subject people are thinking about. When did you discover that you were a masterful communicator?

Nick Vujicic: It was actually first and foremost suggested by the Janet’s at cleaning the toilets at my high school after he saw me do an oral presentation in front of the whole school. He said,‘You’re going to travel around the world and you’re going to be a speaker.’ And I said, ‘You’re a crazy man.’ I said, ‘No way’. I said, ‘What am I going to speak about?’ He said, ‘Oh your story.’I’m like, ‘I don’t have a story.’ And then he asked me if I would just share in front of a group a group like 5, 6students. They were crying. And people got my number. Can you come to this church? Can you go to this youth group? And I just did it just as a hobby. I loved it. But then God really called me as a 19-year-old, 21 years ago and I became an ordained minister of the gospel of Jesus Christ and I bought domain like www.7billionSouls.com and I wanted to reach the world with the gospel of Jesus Christ as a teenager. But the more and more you do something, the easier it gets. Like obviously my palms are not sweaty anymore my knees are not shaking anymore, but when you do it 3500 times you learn how to do it even better and better every time.

Lance: You also did some for Tony Robbins didn’t you?

Nick Vujicic: I was on some of the stages. I’ve never met him. I’ve been on the biggest stages around the world. Corporate, I was the highest paid motivational speaker on age 40 at one time in the world.

Lance: That’s why I was trying to figure that out where that was.

Nick Vujicic: Yeah.

Lance: Alright, but you’re a really strongly outspoken believer.

Nick Vujicic: Evangelist number one baby. Evangelist number one.

Lance: Alright, so talk to me about this is a strange Segway but you also do business.

Nick Vujicic: Yes sir.

Lance: You are a business maven and so you started talking about banking and I have people everyone calling me saying what about Nick’s Bank? What because believers want, they’re concerned about the banking system as they ought to be.

Nick Vujicic: They need to be.

Lance: So, educators, is there any hope in what’s going on with currency banking and stuff for Christians?

Nick Vujicic: Look I’ll tell you right now first of all for those of you who don’t know in my personal experience in April 2019 I was cancelled out of a bank. There was a woman that asked me to co-found a bank with her pro-life bank because she was horrified to find out that most banks give to Planned Parenthood philanthropically. This is pre-rove way being overturned.

Lance: Yeah.

Nick Vujicic: And so, she wanted to call it Pro Life Bank. That’s what God told it. And I’m like,well, let him tell me that I’m supposed to be a co-founder and then when I got kicked out of my own bank that’s when I knew that I’m supposed to be part of Pro-Life Bank.

Lance: Wow.

Nick Vujicic: Now at this time with SVP and all the things going on the banking world right now. It’s not the perfect time to buy or sell a bank right now. But last time I was on your show. Thank you so much for having me on again, Lance. This is an honor to have you interview me again. This is awesome. We were trying to raise 80 million bucks buy a bank to then basically have the executives. We raised only 8 million of the 80 and it was tiresome after some sometime.But by the grace of God, we may not even need the 8 million. We found a Christian bank. I can’t tell you who it is, but we’ve had a board meeting with the Christian Bank in Texas that’s all Christian. Unapologetically Christian, they’ll never cancel you because of your belief system like I was cancelled. And we definitely need Christian men and in business, in government, in media to be the Noah’s ark to know that we can continue to function and occupy. So, pro-life is now looking into becoming only right now a pro-life fintech which should be charted by this very large bank in Texas.

Lance: What is a fintech?

Nick Vujicic: A fintech basically means a bank without necessarily needing brick and mortar bank and so they have their own brick and mortars between Oklahoma and Texas. We’re talking with the owners and board about, because they’ve been praying Lance about how God, how do we expand and they were looking into having their own fintech. And so, it looks like we might actually be the tip of their spearhead in opening up accounts possibly.

Lance: How does a bank that is Christian how is it different than any other bank?

Nick Vujicic: Well, we know that if there’s any philanthropic tithing back it’s only going to be given back to biblically aligned non-profit organizations that would please God.

Lance: Okay.

Nick Vujicic: And then obviously when we are Christian, they choose as well who they work with. So just like some major banks chose not to work with Christians, they obviously are not going to partner with someone who’s populating hell if you will for businesses like a gentleman’s club. Let’s say. They’re not going to give a loan for a business expansion of a gentleman’s club. And then obviously though we want to be a bank for everyone right? We love everyone. And because of the cancel culture out there we know that we have the constitution of America and that everyone has a right to bank and we want to protect that.

Lance: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I’m thinking about this. It must be kind of frustrating when you’ve got these ESG banks.

Nick Vujicic: Yes.

Lance: Because I had Bank of America that froze my account for like two weeks because I think they were checking for laundering money.

Nick Vujicic: Yeah.

Lance: But it’s because I’m a nonprofit.

Nick Vujicic: Yeah.

Lance: And I have a for profit.

Nick Vujicic: Right.

Lance: Thank God that I could pay the bills with my nonprofit.

Nick Vujicic: Right, me too.

Lance: But I mean it was a wakeup call to me that these banks and but why, doesn’t it frustrate you that there aren’t more boycott a building. I mean I wish we had a bud light moment with the banking industry. So, it’s like you really want to do this.

Nick Vujicic: I think it’s coming. I think it’s really coming.

Lance: You really want to fight that 35 or 40 million people on their accounts.

Nick Vujicic: It’s going to have a massive whiplash. It’s going to be an exodus and I think it’s going to be an affiliation association of like-minded bankers to hold the financial ecosystem. I mean I’ve talked about we got BGEA, you got CFO of Compassion International. They do a billion dollars’ worth of transactions a year and they’re sweating bullets that they’re about to be cancelled at any given moment and so you and I know as the months go by, you hear of another victim.

Lance: All the time. So, the secret is in getting a message out, getting a story out, telling a story, and that opens up another thing that you’re doing regarding films and documentaries. In addition to banking, in addition to motivational speaking, evangelism. Tell me about this.

Nick Vujicic: Yeah, I’ve backed off motivational Speaking quite a lot. Life Without Limbs evangelizing where we can. We got a big Jesus tent coming up. Unfortunately, where the shooting happened in Allen Texas. It’s down the street from my house actually. And so, the tent’s going to go there and we’re going to preach a gospel this coming October. So, I’m backing off motivational circuits. But I was asking God during Covid especially. What do you want me to do? And I was like praying about doing a TV talk show, doing one of these podcasts and I tried one little effort and I’m like it’s not right. And I’m actually going into the production of documentaries for the church to wake up. So, I want to do a documentary producing it. I want to be in some of them. So, we have a slate of 6 documentaries done by Nick V Productions. So, that’s the website, “NickVProductions.com”.

I want to hold short film competitions. We want to do documentaries for foster kids. We want churches to pick up foster kids. We want to do a documentary. Our first one’s called The Cost of Truth and it’s all about Joseph Bonderenko who was kidnapped by KGB back in 1980s, 1990s and he was told to renounce his faith in Jesus Christ. He survived all the torture and the and the jail time and he was unto death. He’s still alive. He was a believer. In fact, the Gods of the prison became saved and they got baptized by him.

Lance: Oh my gosh, it’s like a Book of Acts story.

Nick Vujicic: See, it is. It really is and so we want to like also portray the other people who’ve been marginalized who’ve understood the cost of standing for truth. People like yourself. Glenn Beck, other people. Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban. Next time I see him, I’m going to be in a room with 18 presidents and prime ministers this September in Budapest and so it’s all about from a political, from business, from media, and then individual like Joseph, how do we stand against the evil one when we stand for truth.

Lance: So, yeah, Nick V Productions, we’re here and I’ll be talking about that productions company. I got to ask you about this. I was surprised about the KGB Let me just go there for a second. This is very stimulating.

Nick Vujicic: Yeah.

Lance: I was thinking this was KGB 1960s. You’re saying since 80s and 90s?

Nick Vujicic: Yeah 80s.

Lance: Well, I’m totally missing the point on what was going on. This is the Soviet Union Russia former Soviet Union. Where was this?

Nick Vujicic: So, this was in Ukraine former right Soviet. And so, he got handcuffed because he was known as the Billy Graham of Ukraine. He would have secret preaching meetings because it’s Orthodox, right?

Lance: Sure.

Nick Vujicic: Okay. So, if you’re not Orthodox you’re a bad guy.

Lance: Like the state-approved nationalistic church.

Nick Vujicic: There you go. And so, he was the Billy Graham in Ukraine that want to make him the example for all the Christians and he sought asylum in in Santa Barbara. He’s 86 years old.

Lance: Was he locked up?

Nick Vujicic: 9 months. He was in torture chambers he was in during the winter in a stand-upcell full of liquid his own feces and waste.

Lance: Oh, stop it.

Nick Vujicic: No, I’m serious. He wasn’t there for 9 months but he did that like I don’t know for how many weeks on air.

Lance: Are you going to cover that in the documentary.

Nick Vujicic: 100%. In fact, we’re taking him to Ukraine to walk through Ukraine and go to the prison cells and walk Ukraine one more time.

Lance: Mama, mama, mama.

Nick Vujicic: Yeah, he’s 86. He’s a beautiful, most humble powerful man I’ve ever met in my life.

Lance: I can’t wait to see this.

Nick Vujicic: Oh my gosh.

Lance: What’s the timeline on this?

Nick Vujicic: We need 750 grand. Right now, we need a balloon payment of 240 to just get the production cost. Send the crew over there and then also interview when we’re in Ukraine. Jump to Hungary and interview Victor Orban and President Katsalina of Hungary.

Lance: Is that your most pressing priority right now?

Nick Vujicic: Yes.

Lance: That is?

Nick Vujicic: It is.

Lance: Alright. So, what tell us again, how can people get in touch with you and do this?

Nick Vujicic: “NickVProductions.com” and Lydia Fleming, she’s the vice president. That’s why we’re here and if anyone’s interested to know more about the other documentaries that I’m doing, definitely reach me there but this is the one and first former. I’m not even doing investment raises for the company. I just want to get this documentary done. So, Lance, we’re building a plane while we’re taking off but I got the right team and we’re going to do a fantastic job. Fantastic job.

Lance: Well, you’re one of my favorite people.

Nick Vujicic: Appreciate it.

Lance: You said something yesterday. We only got like 3 minutes left here and I want to drill down on this.

Nick Vujicic: Yeah.

Lance: You said that people are praying for revival for America and it really is the wrong focus. America really needs to repent. I repeated that to one or two other people and it just they gasped when they heard it because it’s actually true that we’re talking about, we keep on talking about praying for revival and when you talk about revival, it’s always someone else. But when it’s repentance it gets personal. And you just did that. You took this a group of broadcasters on a great commission saying we need to refocus not on a Great Awakening and revival like some kind of happy party takeover, but it repentance. Just unpack that with 2 minutes left for this audience.

Nick Vujicic: Look Asbury was not revival. It was just people repenting and reconnecting with God on a level that they should be doing, right? And so that that’s kind of like a recommitment if you will. Revival. I think some of us are delusional when we talk about revival. What does that mean? Is that when the world is Better? Is that when we’re actually seeing evil people do righteous things? That’s insane. That’s not going to happen. Demons don’t do righteousness. Okay? So, if we understand that then it’s the remnant and the body of believers to do what we’re supposed to be doing. To be in the word. To abide in him. To heal the brokenhearted. Set the captives free and actually repent. Repent of our pornographic addictions. Repent of us even like not even like the hand and feet of the body of Christ for instance, human trafficking in America stops with the church. And it starts with actually Bible studies 6 weeks in a row with men who are addicted to pornography and actually talking about PTSD of abortions of women and talking about these things that are politically polarized. It’s us actually having the conversations that we really need to have and finding a righteousness.

In fact, Lance, In September 2024, I’m praying. I’m praying that a million Americans come together and actually repent at the Washington Mall Monument. I’m now on the next gen board of the PCCNA and we’re trying to mobilize 140,000 churches in fall next year to actually repent and not just turn away from things but now empower the churches to go towards. So, that’s our heart. We got to call into repentance and we have to do it now. If we don’t do it now Lance, we’re going to miss two generations.

Lance: Well yeah, and with only 30 seconds left it said I got other subjects I want to talk about,Finney great revivalist of his time they had abolition as an issue clearly a worthy subject, slavery.And his concern was that Asaman and his various business partners in revivalist they were so caught up in the political north and south struggle over slavery. Finney said, he was concerned that it was going to interfere with the actual repentance that was needed. Because emotions would be excited about other subjects and compete with what the work of God and obviously, he was a revivalist we quote for anti-slavery. But he said political fervor so as we’re moving into 2014 an election year. We’re going to have to navigate how does that apply. Because we can have a people totally disengaged from what’s happening governmentally, because the government is like the cockpit on the plane. And if you want Al-Qaeda flying while you’re trying to repent and coach, might be better if you repented right now and thought about who you want on the cockpit. It’s like I don’t want to wait till a month before the election before repentance breaks out. So, we’re actually going to be looking for a move of God now, right?

Nick Vujicic: Absolutely and I don’t know what I can or cannot say here Lance.

Lance: You can say anything.

Nick Vujicic: Okay.

Lance: Because they can edit it.

Nick Vujicic: Okay. Good. We’re praying for a president that’s a man of God who will put this nation back under God who will only say what God wants him to say and not say what he does not want him to say. For me, I voted Trump before. I won’t be voting for Trump this this election and I love what God has done through Trump and I’ll be forever grateful for his leadership. But when you’ve also got a 3rd option where you’ve got DeSantis who talks about what he talks about,he’s done great for Florida. I’m really fasting and praying for a man of God to be president and I’m going to tell you who I’m voting for. His name is Ryan Binkley. He’s a friend of mine. He’s in Dallas in Richardson. He’s got 450 employees, he’s an M&A merges and acquisitions. He’s done that for many decades. Never been in government, but God called him to be president and I think we need a 3rd option. There’s a lot of Democrats that voted Democrat because of Trump at that time some people like I don’t want to vote Republican but now we look at Biden and they’re like well I don’t want to vote Democrat. And I think like never before we can’t be divided.

We need a 3rd option that’s right in the middle. Slightly right if you will. But biblically based. A wise man. I’m not saying, no one was wise or not. I’m saying, let’s just say it this way. Vote for whoever you want. But please pray for our country. Ryan Binkley. I’m going to be his youth adviser if he becomes president. And I know the man. I’m looking you in the eye and I’m telling you I know the man.

Lance: Alright, you get him to come on the show.

Nick Vujicic: I’d love to get him on the show.

Lance: And we’ll get a chance to meet.

Nick Vujicic: Ryan Binkley.

Lance: Ryan Binkley.

Nick Vujicic: Yeah, the website is “Binkley2024.com”. He’s in Iowa right now. It’s a long shot sir.

Lance: Of course, it is.

Nick Vujicic: It’s a long shot. It would be a miracle of God. But if I’m looking at you, I’m voting for a man of God and there is no one else that I know that’s running for presidency that I know personally that I can look in the eye. He would honor God in his presidency.

Lance: Think about that.

Nick Vujicic: Love you.

Lance: We are going to.

Nick Vujicic: And I love Trump and I love DeSantis. Trust me. I love you guys all. I love you.

Lance: Yeah.

Nick Vujicic: But I feel led to really support Ryan Binkley.

Lance: Well alright. Well, I am so happy that you felt free to share it what you always do. You always share new things.

Nick Vujicic: Well, you make me feel comfortable. I’ve even got my foot up on your couchsome.

Lance: Hallelujah. Hey, guys. We’re going to have Nick back giving us more updates and do support this production, “NickVProductions.com” and because, he who tells the better story wins and we have to start telling better stories. This is a story that I think will produce kind of like the Bonhoeffer books with Metaxas. Hits the right chord at the right time.

Nick Vujicic: Yeah.

Lance: And we got to get it out now. Thank you very much, Nick.

Nick Vujicic: Lance, God bless you. I love you so much.

Lance: God bless you, my brother. We’ll be right back.

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Lance: O Boy, we are in our first show here from NRB. Oh, here’s the camera. NRB, this is the National Religious Broadcasters Association. I have an esteemed man, a member of the academy who votes in the Academy Awards. That’s the part that always blows my mind when I’m with him. And so, Rick Eldridge has done. How many movies have you done?

Rick Eldridge: This is number 31. We’re going to.

Lance: Oh, stop it.

Rick Eldridge: Yeah.

Lance: 31 movies.

Rick Eldridge: Yeah.

Lance: So, but you produced and you’ve directed just for the sake of all my people in the Arts Mountain world. What’s the between a producer’s role and a direct, I guess it’s kind of a dumb question but I’d like to know.

Rick Eldridge: Well, a director basically is working directly with the actors on set to get the performance and basically doing the overall story telling piece of on set. Producer basically typically gets the idea puts the team together oversees the team and kind of has to have a 360 view of things. It’s difficult to direct and produce just as it’s difficult to act and direct because you got to be I mean you’re very narrow cast and ways and I’ve got to be solving problems. I’ve got to be putting out fires. I’ve got to be making sure that 250 people that are helping to make this movie have everything they need to do that. So, and then I take it after the director finishes his job and do all of the things like we’re doing right now, talking about the film and getting it released and then managing that whole process.

Lance: So, now they do awards here and tonight there’ll be an awards recognition ceremony and you have like 5, what do you got?

Rick Eldridge: 5 nominations for our movie, The Mulligan.

Lance: Talk about Mulligan. I want people to know about this.

Rick Eldridge: Yeah, the Mulligan was a film that we did a year ago. It’s based on a story by Ken Blanchard and Wally Armstrong. They wrote the book. It’s a fictional story but it’s a story of life around the game of golf and Pat Boone plays this old pro who young corporate exec who has a very successful multi-billion-dollar international business. Thinks everything’s going pretty good for himself sponsors this golf tournament and makes a fool of himself. Winds up breaking a club across his knee which makes national news, makes ESPN. But we basically then introduce him Tom Lehman, the touring pros in the movie is kind of one of the guys he plays against. So,Tom introduces him to this old pro character who is kind of a God figure really, but kid thinks he’s going to fix his golf game. Really gets a do over in life. What a Mulligan is a do over, a second chance.

Lance: Second chance. So, a golfer they know the metaphor.

Rick Eldridge: There we go. What we realize in the course of the movie is that he’s got a kid that hates him. He’s got a terrible relationship with his wife. They’re divorcing and he’s got some things going on inside of this multi-billion-dollar business that are not exactly as he thinks they are. So, all of this kind of plays out in the course of Mulligon.

Lance: Where do people see that?

Rick Eldridge: It’s everywhere you buy or rent DVDs or movies. It’s Apple TV, Amazon, Pure Flex, wherever you get your stuff.

Lance: It’s like a great Father’s Day gift too, wouldn’t it?

Rick Eldridge: It’s a great film for the whole family. We tested it with moms and with why and they said, hey, we love this movie too. So, it’s a family film.

Lance: We have thousands of people who are always asking me Lance why aren’t you in movies. So, how do I go about getting cast in a movie? It’s a constant request we have.

Rick Eldridge: Okay, well we’ll have to do that.

Lance: What’s the protocol? How does that work?

Rick Eldridge: I’m working on a western right now. How are you in a cowboy hat?

Lance: Well, Jews are great western characters. As you guys think it’s a ponchos Sanchez Stein.

Rick Eldridge: We’ll talk.

Lance: Are you really doing a western?

Rick Eldridge: We are. We’re writing it right now.

Lance: So, does that a producer does the hiring or a director?

Rick Eldridge: A producer does all the hiring. So, you’re talking to the right guy.

Lance: Well, there we go ladies and gentlemen but you have another project right here right now.

Rick Eldridge: We do. We just finished the film called Never Give Up.

Lance: 30 films. How long does it take you to do? I wrote two books. I can’t believe you done thirty books. How long does it take you to make a movie?

Rick Eldridge: Usually, it’s a couple years but sometimes they overlap where you’re like in the scripting stage with one. You’re in the producing stage with the other or maybe the marketing stage so.

Lance: Are you saying you’re doing multiple projects at one time?

Rick Eldridge: I am. I’m ambidextrous like that.

Lance: I didn’t know that people That’s the first time I thought about that. I was thought a movie was an obsessive from beginning to end thing.

Rick Eldridge: Well, it can be but then you get to the end of it and say, what do we do now?

Lance: And meanwhile, you’re already cooking something in the pipeline.

Rick Eldridge: Oh yeah, always.

Lance: Alright, I want to go to that western in a minute but tell me about Never Give Up. This story is pretty wild.

Rick Eldridge: Phenomenal story. 5 years ago, I read Brad’s book. Uh Brad at the age of three for the disease became deaf and he’s up in Toledo, Ohio with his family and they chose first of all to allow him to stay there and not institutionalize him because back then that’s kind of what they did.

Lance: Oh really?

Rick Eldridge: But they actually chose to allow him to learn to lip read rather than sign because he’s in a family of people that speak and hear. And so, he learned to lip read and he’s the best I’ve ever seen at it. I mean if you and I are sitting here in every conversation and you can see and he can see your lips.

Lance: This is amazing ladies and gentleman. Because ran into him in the lobby yesterday. He was like talking to me then I saw Rick. I said, wait Rick, you’re here. Let’s get together. I want to do an interview with you and talk about what’s happening with the Arts Mountain and I had no idea. The movie was based on him and he’s the one who was deaf.

Rick Eldridge: Yeah.

Lance: Because he was the best listener out of all the group.

Lance: Right. Absolutely.

Rick Eldridge: Flip me out. I mean because my daughter wanted to take a picture and he was helping us figure out what to do. It’s crazy.

Lance: It’s amazing. But anyway, the story talks about his life as he had to overcome. I mean, you can imagine hearing aids back then were like something you strapped on. So, it looked like a bra. So, here’s this, 7-year-old kid going to school and get made fun of and bullied and all of this but his parents taught him how to read lips and then they taught him how to play tennis and he became very good at tennis. Got a scholarship to Toledo University of Toledo where the coach basically said, you’re deaf. You should go to the World Game of the deaf and deaf Olympics basically and so he tried out, went to Gallaudet University in Washington DC first time he ever met a deaf person was at a deaf college. Because and he didn’t know how to sign so he’s kind of like sitting in the middle of this saying, he can’t hear you because he doesn’t hear. But he can’t talk to the deaf people because he doesn’t sign.

Lance: Wow.

Rick Eldridge: But long story short he makes the team and he makes it all the way through to finals. He’s in the gold medal round against the former gold medal champion and he’s down. If you know anything about tennis, he’s down two sets, 5 games, 40 love in the gold medal round.

Lance: But basically, he’s one mistake short of losing you lose a point.

Rick Eldridge: Yeah. Do you lose a game? Anything you’re gone. And he at that point cried out to God. He didn’t really have a strong faith at that point but he had grown up in a home that prayed and that and so he knew God. And he just says God help me. That was a turning point in the match but also in his life because he came all the way back and Sports Illustrated call it the largest coming ever.

Lance: Yeah, so how many strokes would that be, how many like times would he have to be scoring a point now?

Rick Eldridge: Well, after he began to come back it was a 5-hour match.

Lance: That’s what I want to find out. A 5-hour match hour match.

Rick Eldridge: To come all the way back and win the goal. Yeah, amazing.

Lance: So, that movie now is out.

Rick Eldridge: it will be out September the 1st in theaters. So, it’s coming in and we’re marketing talking about it and you can go to “NeverGiveUpFilm.com” and see the trailer and take a look at it. You can see theaters where it’s going to be and find your theater. We let people know about it.

Lance: Oh perfect. Well, we got a really powerful audience for that. People do this stuff. They really.

Rick Eldridge: It’s great.

Lance: They’ll crash websites if they get motivated. I always want to ask you. So, would the like when you’re voting for these movies and stuff. Because I always catch you around the time when that’s happening.

Rick Eldridge: Right.

Lance: So, it’s interesting. Now how much of this is politics? And I don’t want to get you in trouble. But I mean little inside baseball here is how much of this is voting and how this is politically influenced. How does this work?

Rick Eldridge: Well yeah, the studios do their best to encourage their people to vote in their direction as you can imagine. A lot of money gets played. We like to promote it.

Lance: Because we’re talking so you’re saying that if you have directors or people that are actually voting and they do a lot of work with a particular studio that gives an advantage to the studio.

Rick Eldridge: Oh yeah, sure it does.

Lance: Doesn’t it?

Rick Eldridge: Sure, it does but what’s also interesting is you see like a couple years ago the movie Juno which was kind of a lower budget Cumber Behind movie but it was agenda driven and what we happening in Hollywood today are agenda-driven movies being rising to the top.

Lance: Yeah.

Rick Eldridge: Because they want to tell our message. Not always the message that we believe.

Lance: Doesn’t Hollywood. Yeah, sure but I mean I could excuse that too if there were good movies but they’re not necessarily better. And here I think, don’t you think Hollywood knows that the rest of us all know as consumers that we’re now watching awards go to messages that are political rather than to artistic achievements?

Rick Eldridge: I think so. Yeah.

Lance: They got to know it and it and it kills I think it kills the brand. I think the viewership proves that it’s like.

Rick Eldridge: Yeah, in many ways it does, I think. But I know I challenge people what we need to do is tell our stories with excellence.

Lance: Yeah.

Rick Eldridge: And we need to have a seat at the table.

Lance: That’s what we’re trying to do that’s why I love what you’re doing that’s why I want everyone to know about you and now real quick we got 2 minutes and 59 seconds. Tell me about the Cowboy movie. The western

Rick Eldridge: I have never done a western. Yeah, I’ve done about every other Genre.

Lance: What’s the story? Can you tell us a story?

Rick Eldridge: Well, it’s a taken from if you remember the Sacket series in Louis Lamour.

Lance: Yeah.

Rick Eldridge: Louis Lamour was one of the famous writers of Cowboy Stories. And we kind of patterned our family the Prescott’s after the Sackets who, they were shoot them up cowboy.

Lance: Right.

Rick Eldridge: But if you mess with one of the Sackets you mess with all the sacks. It’s a band of brothers.

Lance: Like bonanza.

Rick Eldridge: But it’s the unique thing about it. My partner has a 7,000-acre ranch in the heart of Central Florida and we’re building sets there. We’re going to build a western town there and we’re going to do the movie right there in Central Florida. And not many people know this but before the Wild West was the Florida Wild.

Lance: What?

Rick Eldridge: Thus is the title. So, before everybody went west there were Confederate people that were defecting and coming south. There were the Hispanics coming north.

Lance: Yes.

Rick Eldridge: There were the Seminole Indians that were living here.

Lance: Oh, that’s true. It’s a no big plot of everything and the Indian Native Americans.

Rick Eldridge: And then you had Flagler building the railroads through the middle of the state. So, you had all this stuff happening. And you had alligators and snakes and the wild. So, the byline of the movie is Before the Wild West was the Florida Wilds.

Lance: I like that.

Rick Eldridge: Here we go.

Lance: That sounds like listen.

Rick Eldridge: Looking forward to that. That’s coming in a couple years. So, look forward.

Lance: That’ll be a couple of years?

Rick Eldridge: Well, it’ll take that much to write it and produce it. Oh, we’re working on it right now. We’ve written the initial draft but we’re in the process. That’s one of those in the back.

Lance: Every story has a villain, right? Every story has something to overcome. Every story has the unlikely hero type thing or all those elements in this?

Rick Eldridge: Every one of them. Yeah, you have a romance. You have yeah, the heroes. You have the villains. All of that happening in the course of it and you have, it’s interesting too because in that sense one of the settlers in the group which is the Chastain family decide day after well, we got a town, we got to have a church. So, the reverend comes and so you go to the saloon and then one day and you’re at the church the next day. So, there’s a God thing happening too.

Lance: Of course, and all the great classic ones have the church and the church is better. It’s nobler than the way they exhibited nowadays.

Rick Eldridge: Yeah.

Lance: Because it really was the town center.

Rick Eldridge: Yup, that’s right.

Lance: Hey listen, we only got 17 seconds left. How can people get in touch with you and keep track of you, Rick?

Rick Eldridge: Go to “RealWorks.net”. It’s our website. You can see about all the movies that we’re doing. The ones we have out now and the ones coming and the western that will be starring Lance Wallnau.

Lance: Yes, this is going to be some western people. Rick, thanks for being on our show.

Rick Eldridge: Hey, great.

Lance: God bless. We’ll be back.

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