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We have Karen Conrad in the studio with us today, explaining how you can still generate wealth no matter the economic climate. We’re taking a deep dive into real estate, how you know if a property is over or underpriced, the time to buy, and the law of leverage. Check out this master class to improve your bank balance and your life!

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Lance: Welcome, welcome, welcome to this special edition of the Lance Wallnau Show. I am wearing my festive red today. I don’t normally wear red, but it’s beginning to look a lot like Christmas. I love the Christmas time. I love the Thanksgiving time. This is my favorite time of year. Even though the devil’s a Grinch and he wants to kind of crush the spirit of faith. This is a great time to tap in to the joy of the Lord. Families come together. There’s all kinds of surprises have. It’s just a healthy time to recalibrate, I think. Mercedes Marks is with me today. So, I want everyone here to be thinking about the next year. I mean, starting this next year off right. Starting the next year off smart and strong. No whining, no whimping because we are here because Godput us here in America this time. 

For this reason, I want to give you a verse. We’re going to go into the most important broadcast I’m doing all week right now. Because I believe it’s God‘s will that you prosper and be in health as your soul prospers. I think the world around us is going to need a resourceful strong Christian community. I’m reading Deuteronomy today. The Bible says, when the Lord your God brings you into the land where you’re entering to possess it. Real estate, territory, possess it. This was the charge to Joshua. God will clear away many nations before you. The Hittites, the Girgashites, the Amorites, the Canaanites, the Parasites, the Hivites, the Jebusites. 7 nations, they are greater than you. They are stronger than you. And when the Lord God delivers them before you, you’ll defeat them, you’ll destroy them, you’re not going to make any covenant with them, you’re going to occupy and make that land fruitful for God‘s purposes. That’s what God was saying.

I’ve got real estate for you there. Jewish people, go occupy the land. And remember this, the Lord didn’t send his love on you because you were so smart because you were so big or because you had a lot of money to start with. It’s because you were the fewest of the people of the earth that chose you because I loved you. Couple of key ideas here, I think Christians got to get in the 21 century that we lose sight of. Your strength is independent upon whether the government’s doing what you like or whether the economy is doing what you like. Stop thinking like a mere human. Start thinking like a Christian who’s plugged into a different kingdom. You’re evangelizing people saying you’ve got something they don’t have. Act like you’ve got something they don’t have. That actually makes your testimony stronger and stop worrying about the future. Start preparing for the future because Jesus said, I’m telling you these things so that when these things come to pass, you will not be troubled.

Jesus says, I’m telling you what’s coming prophetically so that when it happens, you won’t be shocked, but remember I told you. So, we’re talking about the economics, what I call dumpster fire of what’s being done with the government. Alright, we talk about that but that’s not your dumpster fire. You’ve got to prepare for the future and we’ve got couple of strategies today that it starts with disposition. Get the mindset. You’re crossing over. You’re like the Old Testament Jewish people and you’ve got a better covenant with better promises and the Holy Spirit’s in you and you’re not relying on following a cloud somewhere. You could be led by the spirit.

Secondly, God is the God of the whole earth and he gives his Earth to his people. He will dispossess forces from property, real estate, mountains, and systems When his people are doing what they’re called to do and I’m believing for God to move mountains. I’m going to see mountains move. And you see them locally. You see them in your State. You’ll see them in your school system. Right now, Mercedes we’re going to be looking at a whole new area which is acquiring land. We want God‘s people to literally be looking at the practicality of occupying real estate. Taking land. I think it’s a biblical thing. I didn’t see it before. I thought yeah, real estate, this, that. Then my Monroe said something before he died. He said something I was in a meeting with him. He said, ‘The meek shall inherit the earth. That real estate is one of the areas of God‘s covenant manifestation for Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and their offspring. It’s the acquisition of geography for the kingdom of God.

So, with that thought in mind, we have a couple of experts that we work with who are doing phenomenal stuff. They’re friends of mine. That’s how come I found out what they’re doing. Then my wife and then my dog and then Mercedes then everybody else starts getting in on this. I realize, well, I guess the Lord‘s lead me into this thing now and it has to do with the whole realm of land, property, real estate and preparing for the economic challenges of the future. Karen, now Karen’s going to be joining us. Karen Conrad. Thank you for making yourself available today and for being able to help us. Hey, Karen.

Karen Conrad: Hello, Lance. Thank you for having me on.

Lance: I’m so excited about today. I’ve got all kinds of notes questions I want to ask you but really Mercedes is the one who, she’s the COO in our operations. So, she handles the books and the numbers more than me. I handle the messaging and this stuff. But Mercedes you are especially keen on making sure that our people have this information. Why was this important to you?

Mercedes: Yeah, well, I mean to your point Lance we talk so much about different wealth strategies, what’s happening economically. I just want to bring different options to people because we’ve got everybody in all sorts of boats, right? You’ve got people who are thinking, well, I’ve got a little bit of money to invest. I might be renting right now. I have my primary home. Should I be selling? What should I be doing? So, I love bringing in. I mean, you remember like the old school Rolodex, like when you used to have a Rolodex. Like you have so many cool people in your network that I just want to bring experts like Karen in, because she’s our real estate expert. So, I think it would be awesome if Karen could just give us an update. What is going on in the real estate market. What should people be looking at because I think it’s something a lot of people are considering right now like they have equity in their home, what’s going on with interest rates. There’s just so much. So, I want to give our people as much of a strategy and opportunity to build wealth and create.

Lance: Alright, let’s take 20 minutes to do a massive data dump to help everyone out there become. I’m telling you; I want you to think rich. Don’t think poor. Don’t think barely getting by. Don’t think nervous. The world does that. You’re not the world. You’re a kingdom person. So, Karen, what can you tell us about what’s happening in the great shaking of real estate out there? Is there still hope in the real estate world? Because I was thinking, oh forget it.

Karen Conrad: Yeah, there’s absolutely still hope. A matter of fact, when we look at going forward in real estate right now, we just see it that there is some of the biggest opportunities that have been out there really for years are about to come to pass, and there’s a lot of reasons for it.Believe it or not, there are still ways to buy real estate today that can position you very well even with the interest rates going up, and so just to give you a market overview. Think everybody realizes that interest rates have gone up significantly and listening to the Fed, they are not going to stop raising interest rates anytime soon. And that is of course because they’re trying to down inflation. So, just what you were saying Lance was awesome, because a lot of people are, whoa,interest rates are high and they get into fear, like I don’t know what to do. We can’t go into real estate because of interest rates. But that is not true.

There’re actually some things in this current market and right around the corner that are going to be very beneficial for us as Christians moving forward with not only wisdom which we need but knowledge. That’s what we’re really focused at on in Wealth Builders is providing both for you. So, when we think about interest rates and we realize that payments are going up for the same dollar amounts, the market balances itself. So, what we’re looking at right now is as interest rates are going up, we’re starting to see some areas where the pricing is softening and it kind of brings us to this equilibrium. One of the things that we share with people is when you’re analyzing properties, don’t look at interest rate. What you want to look at is actually metrics that helps you to understand if its cash flows, if you are fitting the criteria that hasn’t changed for years with real estate and to really leverage this opportunity to find bargains. One of the things that Billy does is he shares with us that you don’t make money when you sell. You make money when you buy and so everybody be encouraged. This is an ideal time for you to think about real estate. The market has been very volatile which everybody knows and really what’s out there is advised to go to what’s called hard assets. And real estate are hard assets along with gold which you guys talk about.

Mercedes: Absolutely. So, Karen because I think there’s a lot of people out there wondering and I don’t want to give too much secret sauce away because I been to a couple different Wealth Builders conferences. But how would somebody know if a market is overpriced? Like how do they know is my market overpriced, if I’m moving somewhere should I be, how would I determine? If I’m going to make money when I buy not when I sell, how do I know if I’m buying at a good price?

Karen Conrad: That’s a great question. Well, there’s a process that we go through to analyze properties and some of it is depending on what the use of the property is. If it’s your primary dwelling and it something that you just fall in love with the house, you are going to approach that differently than looking at it with an investor hat on which is what we’re mainly talking about today. So, there’s several criteria that we look at. One of the main things is when you go into investment property, ideally, you want to stay within 3 to 4 times the median income of that area.What that does is it hedges you for protection if the market goes up, if the market go down, when we’re facing potential unemployment, you want to have a property that most people in the area are going to be able to afford.

So, that’s one thing you can actually Google that and its media income. It is not average income. Then, when you multiply that by three or four times that gives you really the top amount that you want to spend for an investment home in a particular area. So, that’s a great place to stop.

Lance: I have a question. So, I was googling wrong to show you again. I’m a fairly smart guy. So, Annabelle and I go looking, we’re at that age. We went down to a retirement area that her parents retired in in Bonita Springs, Florida and I had an hour after I spoke at a pastor’s event for our tent meeting that we’re doing with Mario.

Mercedes: Sure.

Lance: And I said, let’s go check out your parents’ old place. It’s like nostalgia where we brought the grandchildren, which are our kids now. I said, ‘Hey, maybe we should live in a place like this. It’s like a nice little Jewish near Boca Raton Golf Course. We could take up golf together. We found an open house. She’s so resourceful. We go to the gated community and the guy says, sorry, you basically, they won’t let you in. She goes, ‘Are there any open houses? He said, ‘Oh yeah, 2202 and 2222. She goes, ‘We’re here to look at those. He goes, ‘Okay.’ And he let us in. I said, ‘You’re really good. She’s such an honest person. They just got us in. I would’ve got us kicked out. I would have said, I just want to drive around. Sorry, sir.

Anyway, so we get there. We go into the house and she’s telling me the formula because she’s been with cousin and with you doing the secret sauce. She goes, I learned a lot from Billy and from Karen. So, what we’re going to do is she goes, look at the median income, and I look for the average income. I thought it was the same thing and I was getting all these goofy numbers. I said, this doesn’t work. She goes, oh, let me do it and so she found it out. What’s the difference between a media income and an average income?

Karen Conrad: Well, median income is kind of that space where most people’s payroll or paycheck is sitting than their salaries. Average is taking from the bottom to the top and bringing it in the middle for an average. So, median income just gives you a much better idea of where most people are in the market and that’s why we suggest using that rather than average.

Lance: Well, thank you. That was a fast answer. Explains why I didn’t know somebody. See, these keys people. These are, give us and I know that Karen, I know that you’re not we have to I want to give my people secret sauce. This is what cousin has. Cousin has secret. I was telling him, because Cousin Billy he’s just brilliant with money. He’s got people all the time. Hunting them down everywhere he goes. So, what do I do? What do I do? That’s how come he’s doing this. He’s training people. Because he’s a Christian. He feels like he needs to give away the knowledge he’s got. But give me another secret sauce thing. Now tell me about rental properties. Are they good to work with now rentals because it’s not just flipping properties and buying and selling? There’s buying to rent is another strategy. How does that look right now?

Karen Conrad: Yeah, that is actually really strong right now and let me tell you why in times like this in the market where we have got increasing interest rates. It is taking a lot of people out of the market for buying homes and they need a place to live. So, where are they going to go? They’re going to go into rental properties. So, this happened back in the 2008 to 2012 as well the housing market and prices were going down, but the rental rates go up because of increased demand. So, if you have a rental property right now, you are definitely looking at increasing the rent. If you’re looking at going into investing for real estate and a lot of people need to do that to help with their tax liability. This is a really key thing, not only is there money to be made but it reduces your taxes. You could to get a strong rental rate, but also to know in the next 2 to 3 years with the market as it is today, you will be looking at being able to increase rental rates. So, this is an ideal time to start thinking about what we call buy and holds.

Mercedes: So, Karen, if people want to learn more about this type of material. Because I think one, there’s a lot to take in and I feel like you’ve already given away two really huge nuggets that people have paid a lot of money that I know me and Annabelle enjoyed it to learn all of that.

Lance: Well, let me just say something right now. Because I’m looking at what y’all have because Annabelle’s looking at like 33 sessions. She and my daughter are watching. And now they’re pulling me in. You guys know me. So, I’m getting pulled in. The Family Mountain is pulling me in because my wife and my daughter are working and looking at houses now. And they want daddy to be involved. Now well this is great. I love being with my family. But here’s what I’m looking at. 14 mistakes that investors make. Top secrets of getting financed when you don’t know what to do. Tax saving tips because I am nauseous at how much the government is taking out of people that ought to be preparing for retiring at this stage in life and they’re paying the government. I want to know the numbers. I want to know the secret sauce templates. What are the ratios to look for? Whether it should be an Airbnb, a rental property, a buy and hold or a buy and flip and there’s vacation rentals. There’s so much, but Karen, you guys actually put it together into a total curriculum for mastering in the subject so that none of us have to be fumbling around. Tell us what you guys have. What is Cousin got?

Karen Conrad: Yeah, we put something together actually just for you Lance and your audience,and it’s a Real Estate Master Series. We took all of the best teachings and trainings from our workshops and we pulled them together. So, they cover topics just like what you were describing Lance in properties, wholesaling, tax liens. It is literally a master series and it includes all of the we call them PowerPoints but really what it is, it’s notes on all of the teaching because when you listen to it, there’s so much in these teachings. It’s really impossible just to hear it and apply it. So, we wanted to make sure that you were all equipped and you’re able to reference it, take notes, and really apply it and we got a very special price. We did $500 off to launch this just with your group Lance.

Lance: Well, so let me tell you guys this. I’m serious about this. I’ll go out and I’ll fly around and by between my airfare and my hotel, I’ll pay 1,400, 1,500 to be at the event, the hotel and the airfare and the meals. That doesn’t include the conference itself, but this is only $1497. It took off like normal like $2,000 price tag. It’s down to $1497. 33, 30-minute sessions. What I’m looking at is 3330-minute sessions could basically be done if you really wanted to do it within a month. You could go through the entire curriculum and have a real estate mastery you know profile. At least you know what to do but you guys are also going to provide for our people say because Annabelle has questions. I know Joy calls you up. She’s Texting while I’m talking to you. So, I know how this works with my family. You do have mastermind calls, right? So that the students can get together and they have their questions, their cases, and so are you going to be able to provide that also?

Karen Conrad: Yeah, we sure are and that’s something special too. Live mastermind calls. We have a whole team of coaches in real estate and we will be on that call and we’ll give you market updates. But also, this is where you have the opportunity to ask question and as you get into this, there’s a lot to it and really even scenarios. If you look at a property, it’s like, how do I know this is right or help me run through the template where we provide calculations on how to analyze a property in a very short amount of time. So, you will be able to be part of that. So, anybody that purchases this, you’ll receive a private invitation to two mastermind calls over the next 6 months and then, we’re available questions as well. We really and this from knowing Billy and Becky, we have a heart to help the body of Christ prosper. And our favorite way to do that is through real estate investing.

Lance: We should be folks. You should be the head and not the tail above and not beneath. You shouldn’t be living off of fingernail biting anxiety watching the news. You let me do that. Your job is to build your faith and your family’s portfolio. You’re supposed to be giving an inheritance to your children and to your children’s. I know a lot of the folks that watch me are my age. This is not the time for you to worry about the future. It’s the time for you to get the knowledge of how to navigate. I don’t care if whoawhoa, I don’t have any money. It’s the mentality that is killing people right now.

Mercedes: Yeah.

Lance: Because if you have insufficiency, it doesn’t take much to get into having sufficiency and if you got strategies, there are even groups that get together. There’re so many ways. Listen, I got a part Jewish background. I can think of so many ways to make stuff once I get motivated. You got a couple of people together that together, they collectively could buy the property. I have some pastor friends of mine that started doing that with other pastors. Next thing, they had real estate because they pulled their resources together and they started getting in the game. I’m telling you, there’s a lot of instability coming and the people that know what to do, lead. I’m trying to get you in a position of being a leader, not a loser, someone who’s going to be a builder and not and not someone who’s broke and I don’t care what the devil throws at us. We’re going to come out on top because you are the city set on a hill. You’re not in the rubble. 33 sessions, 30 minutes a piece. I’ll do one a day for the next month. Go through the PowerPoints. I want to do in your specialty there, Karen is how to find and analyze profitable markets.

So, that’s what I love about you. You’re like the perfect person for this because you’re so easy to approach and I never feel like I’m asking a dumb question. So, I want to be able to find and analyze those profitable markets. It’s $1,497. I’m going for this. I encourage you to go for it. There’s only a couple of ways folks that you can make money in the future. The stock market looks weird. Dollars in unstable, but I’m looking at that gold and silver from Haggai and I’m looking at real estate. These are biblical paradigms and Mercedes.

Mercedes: Well, I was just I’m I love what you’re sharing over there. so, I don’t want to interrupt you, but I don’t also want to lose a thought. But I don’t know if you know this, but 90% of millionaires got there through real estate, through the vehicle of real estate. I end up thinking about like as you’re talking, I end up thinking about like all the people in my life that are like high certainty styles like you and I are high risk. And it’s like and I’m married to somebody who’s skeptical and can think of all the reasons why not

Lance: Are you thinking about Larry Sparks?

Mercedes: I know. Well, he’s high certainty. God balances people out so is my mom. I invited my mom to the last real estate workshop and I gave her the online to watch online. She said,please, she didn’t come and she’s like please next time you invite me make me go because this material is so good. I wish I would have been there. But I want to say that it’s like don’t think of all the reasons why, you could think of more reasons why you shouldn’t do a thing. But what I love about Billy and what Karen have put together and it’s so hard to even encapsulate everything that Karen knows and everything that Billy knows and make it feel like hey this is so valuable you should go do this thing. But they really lay every single step out. I mean they had everything there from where we’re at which is kind of like beginner.

Like what’s the median household income? What should I be looking at? Set up your real estate emails that you’re getting. But all the way to I mean they had tax strategies. How to buy multiple properties and put it in one corporation and then the tax strategy behind that corporation. So, they have everything for everybody at each level. And so, I really think this is something if you an entrepreneurial child or grandchild. I mean, I’ve wanted to understand real estate for nearly 10 years. Any of the money I’ve ever made has not been from trading time for money. It’s from what Karen said which is God put me in really great purchase times like in 2007, I bought 150,000,townhome. I turned around and sold that for a profit. I bought a house before I moved here and made a very nice profit on that and, but God had me buy at the right times and that’s what I want people to understand.

The time to buy is coming in the next 6 to 8 months and if you do not prepare now and get the blueprints and the strategies that you need right now, you will miss the opportunity in 6 to 8months and I don’t want you to do that. Don’t be like my mom who got the invitation to come. I was going to fly her up there with Miles and she decided not to go and she had to watch it online on the live stream. Invest in yourself. Do this as a family. This is something I’m getting Larry into too. Larry came to the conference as well because I know 6-day months from now is the time and I don’t want to not be prepared for that.

Lance: And listen, my wife is big on the Family Mountain. That’s why she’s got the whole Family Mountain Ministries going and one thing we started watching was these real estate shows on TV where it’s the mom and the dad and the sons and the daughters and then their spouses and she said, look at that. This is a business which actually the whole family does. Mm hmm. Because the inheritance as I told my children. The other night, I said, I think real estate something I never looked at, but whatever we do is for you guys. It’s like this is one way of protecting the assets in the house if it’s set up right. so, that the inheritance is there for the children and I said, you’re it’s physical. It’s not like a cryptocurrency or a digital currency. This is an actual physical heart asset.

And Annabelle said something to me interesting. She said, her dad was a doctor. Doctor Naples was a baby doctor, gynecologist, obstetrician, delivered almost all the kids in Levittown, Pennsylvania after the war and what they did was they put seven kids through college through real estate because he didn’t make that much as a doctor to be able to put 7 kids through college.But what he did do was he bought properties and his wife got a real estate license and they sold a house for each child’s education. I thought well it was back in the day when it’s worth going to college and so I just want to say something to you. This is not just something to wink at it’s something to take a serious look at, because with the course $1400, you could be looking at this with more than one person. You could be looking with your family. It’s just like so divide it up.It could be like $500 or $400. Do this for Christmas. Do this as a gift to someone. It’s the family investment plan for the future.

Mercedes: But think $1400 is one rental payment so let’s say you took action on this you purchase and we’re not talking $300-400,000 homes. Karen will tell you we’re talking like $100,000 home a starting place of what you should be getting not through your 400,000 then it builds. Then you take that money that you just made you take the value of that property and you roll it into your next purchase. I mean we could have Karen probably talk all about that. But this is what I was trying to say earlier is like it’s not actually high risk that if you’re high certainty.What I love about what’s in this material what Karen and Billy teach is it’s step by step systems,formulas, processes, that I so love and appreciate. But maybe I know Karen’s still sitting there we’ve been talking forever. But Karen, will you talk about that about how you start and then you kind of roll these into? I mean, you have done that yourself. I’m like green with envy. You have like five or six properties now that you’ve done this with.

Karen Conrad: We do. We’ve actually purchased 7 in addition to our primary dwelling and one of those was a flip which we sold. So, we’re using the same bucket of money each time and actually we just got back from England and we had taught this in 2019 in England. We had a couple come up and they were on their 6th property using the same twenty thousand dollars that they started with.

Mercedes: Wow.

Karen Conrad: And so, we take you through that process. There are markets that you can buy in where you don’t have to spend the half a million dollars. There’s also a lot of creative financing and we help you to look at what you might have in your hand that you’re not even aware of. But the generational part of this is big. Lance and Mercedes, you know Levi is in on this with us. But I feel like this is a time for us teach and train our kids.

Mercedes: Yeah.

Karen Conrad: And our grand kids. My parents did really well but they didn’t teach and train me. I watched them but this is proactive teaching and training that is going to help you know with biblical principles that you’re teaching your children, your grandchildren and a thousand generations, right. Like the Bible says, “A way for them to prosper no matter what is going on in this world.

Mercedes: Amen.

Lance: We’ve got 6 experts are part of this teaching thing. Maybe we’ll put the graphic up when we do post and put this video together. But we’ve got real estate attorneys. We have real estate investors, coaches, people that handle all aspects. You’re going to be hearing from, I thought this was amazing, The Theology of Real Estate by Dan Dryer.

Mercedes: Oh, that’s the best.

Lance: Because we’re Christians.

Mercedes: But that was the best.

Lance: That was the, you heard it?

Mercedes: It’s one of the best. That was at that conference. I mean, Karen can speak to it.

Lance: Come on. Now you got me curious.

Karen Conrad: Yeah. Dan actually combines and a lot of people don’t know this. There’s a way to combine ministry or nonprofit in real estate and he talks about that. He’s an amazing pastor and like a real estate mogul. I mean he’s incredible. He has transformed an area of the nation through real estate with this heart just like very similar to the scripture that you shared at the beginning Lance. He is an incredible insight into generational wealth where real estate is biblical and it just helps you to say you know what? I have to do this, and you set aside the fear, you walk forward, we give you safe rails to run on and really, it’s time for us to step in. This is transformation this is cultural transformation and wealth.

Mercedes: Amen.

Lance: I remember man, Mars Cerillo, you guys are too young for this. Mars Cerillo had this great voice and he was a great Jewish Pentecostal preacher. Well, this Mars Cerillo I found had owned more real estate in San Diego. I think it was than even the realtors had, because he bought hotels with his nonprofit and then turned them into Bible schools and then rented them out as hotels. I mean, it’s amazing my people perish for lack of knowledge, not lack of anointing, not lack of passion, not lack of purity, not even lack of prayer. It’s when you see that window of opportunity coming past you my friend, you got to dive through that window of opportunity. The opportunity of a lifetime has to be responded to within the lifetime of that opportunity.

So, 33 sessions with PowerPoints, two mastermind group calls, because I want to see you guys become the Abrahams and the Isaacs and the Jacobs. That 3 years from now, 4 years from now, take that $20,000 that we show you how to find and rolled it over into the acquisition and possession of three or four properties. What an exciting proposition for the family to come together and have an inheritance for the future. Once again, it’s Lance Walnut. com forward slash real estate. Can you give me real quick what is the law of leverage? Just out of curiosity is one of the notes I have here and I didn’t ask you, Karen.

Karen Conrad: Yeah, the law of leverage is understanding how to use other people’s money for your real estate. Let me just share real quick and you’re all going to understand this with this example. If I take $10,000 and I invested in the stock market and I get a 10% return, which we would all say is a great return, I get $1,000 back. If I take $10,000 and I invest in a 100,000 property and I have a ten percent appreciation, I get 10,000 back because you earn on the entire asset which is the law of leverage and it leads to multiplication. We teach a lot about it in this series.

Lance: It’s exciting. Alright, look. Let’s go for it. Lancewallnau.com/realestate. This is the Real Estate Masters Course. It gives you mastery in the one area. 33 sessions, only 30 minutes each that you need to for life and that’s all I’m going to say because you heard enough to know what you got to do. Thank you, Karen. Once again, for joining us and we’re going to be looking forward to have you back on to talk about these strategies and the secret sauce. Because I think that the antidote to anxiety is revelation that when God shows you what to do and you act on it, it creates faith for the future, it creates hope for the future. And if you don’t have a plan, then you don’t have a future, and God‘s giving his people blueprints for the future. God bless you, Karen.Thank you very much and we’ll be back again tomorrow with more of these kind of breakthrough conversations. God bless you.

Closing: Thanks for listening to this Lance Wallnau broadcast. If you enjoyed today’s show, make sure to subscribe and share the episode. See you tomorrow.

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