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A spiritual battle rages across America, and the church is coming upon its greatest destiny. The American church has to go out of its isolated zone and recognize that there is no separation between the spiritual and secular world. Pastors Cleddie Smith and Bill McGrane are joining us today to discuss all of this and more!

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Lance: Whoa, welcome to Lance Wallnau show, were back. Again, I am so glad to see all love you out there. I see you and I see you and I also see my sparks sparkling over here her Sparkle Desk. 

Mercedes: Happy to be back Lance. You’ve had so many different interviews. So, we did so much at the Mike Lindell event.

Lance: Oh my. We had Marjorie Taylor Greene, Mike Lindell, Steve Bannon took over my show and by the way, he did direct message me back.

Mercedes: Oh yeah.

Lance: And he said to me that it was a great interview.

Mercedes: It was a great interview. It was lots of great interviews.

Lance: He was he was in rare form that day. I must say. But I’m especially excited about what’s coming up now because here’s the deal Lucille. The American church is in a moment of its probably greatest contribution to the destiny of this country. It’s coming up within 10 weeks and it’s going to be the midterms and then it’s going and the reason why this is so important is because there’s a spiritual battle over America that is raging and the church traditionally likes to separate itself from politics. You don’t discuss religion and politics is what they they’ll tell you.But we’re in a strange period of time because if the church doesn’t show up, Jesus said, I will build my church and the gates of hell will not prevail against it”. But where are the gates located? The gates are located at any strategic juncture that can control humanity.

So, if Satan can control the airwaves, then there’s a gate of hell over the airwaves. If Satan can control finance, there’s a gate of hell over economics. So, you see, the gates of hell are strategically located over centers of influence over the minds of the masses. The power of the churches, we proclaim the truth and the truth literally goes up against the gates of hell and the truth sets people free. But unless you’re hearing the truth, you’re not going to be free. So, the church in the United States has to actually start to come out of its separate mentality hiding out in its spiritual zone and realize the whole world is spiritual.

I mean it’s you’re not just dealing with spirituality in the church on Sunday. You’ve got the devil trying to get into education. You got the devil trying to get into media. You got the devil getting into policy and politics, legislation, and litigation before you know it. If you’re not as the church, engaged in all these fronts, you’re not opposing where hell is advancing. So that’s a whole new kind of revival focus because for the long time we just focused on spiritual life and revival and then at a distance we kind of look at and talk about and pray about the Supreme Court or the presidential elections.

Now we’re waking up and realize you have to show up in those spheres of influence. You have to go into all the world not just about it. And listen, 90% of the church is not in the pulpit. You’re in the marketplace. You’re in business. You’re in the school systems. You’re raising children. You’re the soccer moms out there. So, let’s ask two people right now to join us. Pastor Colette Keith andBill McGrane. Bill McGrane represents the marketplace, the business interest as a member of the church. Pastor Colette Keith is a well-known revivalist and I’m particularly interested in having this conversation with you pastor, because you understand the power of God, the fire of God, the reality of God.

I ran into you and your name came up predominantly when I was early on with Bill Johnson and reading out there. So, you know what revival is and but you also now are representing what to me is the apostolic pastoral awakening of how the local church has to rise up and engage a very legitimate part of its spiritual mission. Which is going into culture, discipling nation, is really the field we’re in right now. So, let me start off a pastor with you on this question you are going to host me, I’m going to be coming out there September 23rd, 24th and 25th we’re going to talk to people about how they can get there for those meetings. But tell me about your journey from revival into what you’re also doing now. Which to me is kind of revival and civic engagement.Was there moments of aha that you had that open this up to you or was this something you always believe but now are more engaged in? Tell me about your experience. How’d you get here?

Pastor Colette: Well, I’ve always been in revival. I was saved in a revival so I appreciate and love revival but a lot of people talk about revival coming and going. I don’t believe revival’s come and go. I believe revival is about Christ and there was never a time when he was not. There was a time when Jesus was not but there was never a time when Christ was not. And so, what happened I realized that when we’re silent when good men are silent evil prevailed. And so, in our prayer meeting that we’ve been doing since COVID started. One of our men came back from a foreign nation where he’d been leading the prayer movement. And he started leading the prayer movement here. And he prayed in the specific things that had to do with our government. And it got on all of our people.

Our entire congregation has been swallowed up with this passion to pray for America. I have never seen anything like that where there was such a pinpoint prayer specific thing that we were doing. I had an urgent situation the other day. You will be amazed by this, but I’m sure you’ve heard about it. Had a mother send me an email and what taken place her daughter was asked in her class what political, it was a questionnaire put out with all the children and it was a political questionnaire. What party does your family represent? Now I don’t think that’s legal, but at the same time the person that was teaching it they come across like a woman and they come to class dressed like a man and they’re teaching children and putting out a questionnaire like that.

Well, this is just things that have begin to evolve as we’ve gone into this time of prayer and they come to my porch. They come right to my desk and Bill got involved because Linda was praying. We were offering. We needed someone to represent the business community and Bill of course qualifies for that. And when that happened, we knew where he gave it was like, we were connected like railroad cars. And we saw the need. Then Bill got involved behind the scene and found out what was going on in these voting places and these different precincts. And it was just a snowball and now we’re all involved and that’s why we wanted you to come because I believe you’re a voice and not an echo. I’m sick of hearing echoes. I love to hear men that are voice it.

John the Baptist was a voice crying in the wilderness and I know you probably feel at times you’re crying in the wilderness. But we have to have you, we have to have businessmen rise up that will link with their pastors across America and step out and begin to speak about things that we know are wrong. I think one of the things that really God has dealt with me [INAUDIBLE WORD 08:04] an as Proverbs 14:34. Righteousness exalts a nation but sin is reproach to any people”. And that’s a simple verse, but we become a roach. We’ve reproached. We become a laughing stock of other nations. They’re saying why are you allowing these things. And I’m connected with men that are leaders of nations. And they’re saying how are these things coming down with so many Christians in America? How can this thing be? It’s a reproach when we think about it.

I love what Mother Teresa said about life. She made this statement. I was sharing this with Bill just a moment ago. She said, “In a nation where they allow women to kill her child. It’s not surprising that the murder rate is soaring. It’s not surprising that men can kill one another because a mother can kill her child. I was overwhelmed by that statement as I was reading it the other day. We need voices not echo.

Break: You know what’s happening with Putin and Ukraine is actually having an effect, not directly on our energy the way Biden says. But it is having an effect on food because so much of the wheat that comes into Europe and in the middle of the United States comes out of Ukraine. And so actually the fertilizer that we need comes from that region as well. And so, farmers aren’t going to be using fertilizer and that means that the crops aren’t going to be there. That’s when Joe Biden says that there really is going to be some food shortage. I mean that’ll make you worry because these guys very seldom tell you the truth.

So, what we’re doing right now is we’re really doubling down and making sure that we have an adequate supply of food for our family. A 3-month supply and I’m get I’m taking $150 off of that three-month emergency supply right now at My Patriots. So go to Lancewallnau.com/Patriotand do what my family’s doing. We’re getting a 3-month supply. We’re preparing ourself. We’re getting the saving the $150 now and we’re getting the variety of breakfast, lunch, dinners, drinks, snacks. Everything is like a 2000 calorie a day account and I’m even looking at this Honey Powder they got. This stuff lasts 25 years, but you can sprinkle some of that honey powder on because even for the desserts, I like to make them a little sweet. But anyway, go to Lancewallnau.com/patriot and do what we’re doing. Give yourself peace of mind and prepare for the future. The wise man sees trouble, the Bible says and prepares.

Lance: Pastor, while you’re talking, it’s making me think about something I ran across this weekend. When John the Baptist came, he came in the spirit and power of Elijah. So many of us we’ve talked years ago about the Elijah Spirit about the John the Baptist Spirit. That John the Baptist came before the first coming of Jesus and then the Bible says in Malachi that, I will send you Elijah, who is going to prepare the way of the Lord”. And we have the second coming of Jesus is on the horizon. We’ve always believed there would be this Malachi fulfillment that God was going to send that Elijah voice that Elijah mantle. Again, what’s interesting the spirit of Elijah was obviously on Elijah and he had a protege he raised up who is Elisha who had a double portion of that spirit. Then John the Baptist shows up hundreds of years later he has the spirit and power of Elijah.

So, it tells us that we’re not talking just about a person we’re talking about a prophetic acumen that comes up on messengers before Jesus himself makes a grand appearance. And we are expecting right now that same anointing. But the reason I’m saying all that is because if you read in Luke, if you read what it says about John the Baptist when he shows up in Matthew. It says,“He will turn the hearts of the fathers to their children which is a family restoration. You’re talking about a woman dressed as a man coming in to politically intimidate kids about their party affiliation and their family but the spirit is going to address the destruction of the family. And nowhere is that more evident than in the bizarre turn of events in Europe and the United States with progressivism and how it’s tearing apart families and gender identity and marriages.

Now, the other part of that prophecy is that the spirit and power of Elijah would come and it would turn, catch this, disobedient to the wisdom of the just. Now, that’s interesting because this isn’t talking about a conversion of salvation as we often want to just look at it like soul saving. It’s talking about a conversion of thinking from thinking that is in disobedience to the revealed truth of God to the wisdom of the just. And I think the wisdom of the just is what this whole battle of ideas is about in America. The wisdom of not going into excessive debt. The wisdom of not having borders that are open up to millions of people flooding in without being vetted. The wisdom of having policies that suppress crime in a city. There is a wisdom and I think that the candidates that we’re looking at Mercedes that are running in Trump’s MAGA way that took place in the primaries.

There’s so many Christians that are running for right now that it’s so imperative that the Christians in America get behind the Christians that are answering the call and they’re not going out there as Billy Graham’s demanding conversions. They’re going out with the wisdom of the just to save the nation. Justified wisdom and let me before I go to Bill, let me throw this to Mercedes for a second. You’re a millennial mom. And you yourself have to constantly monitor coming to your daughter, because there’s almost every week you tell me how you’re intercepting a point of propagandizing with your own children.

Mercedes: Yeah. No definitely. Well and I want to talk too also about what you’re talking about when it comes to the church and almost the church recognizing the hour that we’re in. What’s crazy is that it’s a lot of women as parents who are recognizing the hour that we’re in because culture’s coming for their children. And so, like in the State of Florida they just had their primary sheer point. Just had their primaries. They flipped 5 school boards. Do you know mainly who is running? Women with moms for Liberty. They flipped five Miami Dade School Board. Miami Dade is almost the size of Rhode Island. Like flipping a school board in that district is huge. So, to your point, I really think that parents are understanding where we’re at the time and the season we’re at and like you always say this. It’s like Christians really have been like, alright, we back up, we back up, we’re trying to be nice, we’re trying to get along to go along and all of a sudden,you’re I can’t back up anymore. There’s a cliff behind me. This is it and like people are taking a stand and so you’re right.

I mean I’m not going to tell the story that I think you want me to tell that story but I was told to be in confidence. But I’m just saying they’re coming after children on everything. I mean like children thinking am I like I’m talking 10, 11, 12. Am I bi? Am I pansexual? Am I this? And it’s like you’ve never even kissed anybody. What are you even talking about at this point in your life? It’s those types of conversations that I prove you to with what these young girls are talking about and it’s scary. I mean it’s really scary.

Lance: Well, Bill McGrane, I’ve known you for years and it’s so interesting for us to reunite at this moment in history. You were a great teacher when I was younger and forming my worldview on relationships and people and you taught me so much about how to get along with others. And yet at the same time what’s interesting to me is that you’re the last person like Pastor Colette a revivalist. Someone who is involved intensely with visitation and prayer is suddenly in the arena with Maximus in Rome with the dealing with government affairs. And here you were for years a proponent of how people can suspend their judgement of one another and operate in a level of love and create holistic solutions and relationships rather than division. Yet I think that you’ve discovered the same thing I discovered along the way and that is that only works with people that are open to that option. But when somebody has actually got an agenda, you have to employ a different tactic and you may have to actually employ the levers of democracy to thwart them or keep them from their agenda.

I’m curious businessmen standing with pastors is an important part of the matrix for how pastors feel supported by the business community. And on the other hand, how business people can feel supported by the apostolic and pastoral covering of a church in the battle that they’re in. But you came to some interesting awareness’s yourself since I’ve talked to you over the years about church and state and we were told that the two were separated as a businessman. I guess a lot of businesses say, well, I don’t want to get involved with politics. But tell me about your own reflection on the role of you as a marketplace guy and your role in the church.

Bill McGrane: Well, thank you Lance. Always great to be with you. Before I get into that, there was a video that was recently done where they were talking about you and a pastor Timothy Dixon from Alabama. I don’t know if you know who he is. He said, Lance Wallnau is one of the top leading evangelists that God is using now for a great move of God. That will be greater than any previous move of salvation and miracle. I’ll send you that quote so that you can use that.

Lance: I have to see that clip.

Bill McGrane: Yeah. We’ll send that to you too. Back in February, I was not involved politically as you know. And every time I would go to vote there’d be people on the list that I’d say I don’t know who to vote for. They’re just names. So, my wife Linda and I decided we were going to do something about it and get involved. So, we found out by watching Steve Bannon on one of his show interviews, a guy by the name of Dan Schultz talking about becoming a precinct captain. If people go to “Precinctstrategy.com, they can find out how they can be a precinct captain in their community, in their county that then allowed them to be able to vote and vet candidates so that they can get in healthy American electoral people who are going to do what is America first things instead of political things.

I heard the idea about being of service not being in politics. And that’s what really got me vested. And then a phrase that I often say is you got to take a stand and make a mark. And so, we’vebeen pushed back for so long. Those of Christian values, those who want to do good in America, those who want to do good in the world that we have to take a stand and make a mark and say no longer will we allow the defilement of our country and our people and our family and our school system. So, we decided that we were going to do something about it by being a part of our local county which people can do. And later, I want to share three step people can take to get actively involved themselves, because people like me were frustrated and then I created an email list that I sent out to people in my community.

Now because of you Lance it’s a national thing. Now I have a national audience where people are asking, what can I do in my state? What can I do in my county? So, it’s rippling to other states as well. But Pastor and I he was on my email list and he saw things that I was sending out. And we decided that we were going to do something about it in the church. I then vetted in our county who were the healthiest people for people to vote on. Created a list for each person in our county that’s been helpful to people and literally today, I just heard someone this afternoon just tell me that that list was so helpful to them. They spread it to people all over the area because people never voted because they didn’t know who to vote for and because they had a list, they actually voted a first time.

Lance: I have to say, I just want to say something. It’s always amazing to me that you got a Republican Party for instance that has a $90 million dollars of sitting on a slush fund right now of money. Every election cycle, I go to my staff I go to other people and I say, I only really know a couple of these key elections a governor or congressman. But we got Judges, we’ve got sheriffs, we’ve got county commissioners, and you’re absolutely right. There’s no well-oiled machine. You think it’d be like the first priority is to inform your voters about the what you need to know about who you’re empowering to make decisions for your life and so you’re you provided and that started you off. I love the distinctions you’re making about that America first is really about not politics first. And I like that distinction because a lot of people need to know that you’re going to hear more attacks in the media from the president is in the Oval Office right now calling all the MAGA candidates in the MAGA movement the Make America Great Again Movement. The America first people as a threat to democracy ironically, they’re this preservation of democracy from the threat of a totalitarian collapse of freedom. But they’ll use language that way to confuse people. And you said, I’m really not into politics I’m into service.

I like those distinctions I think that would resonate with a lot of people out there. This “Precinctstrategy.com by Dan Schultz we’re big fans of we promote it all the time. Thanks for bringing that up, Bill. I don’t think we’re going to have time to go into everything I wanted to do with you Bill McGrane in terms of those three steps of engagement, but you’re on to so thing. So,how can people get that information from you and get those three steps for engagement?

Bill McGrane: Lance, what they can do is go to, send me an Email is the best thing to do at Bill@MGodcGrane.com. It’s BILL@MCGRAN.com. Bill@MGodcGrane.com. But one thing that’s really urgent that you want to let people know about that Mike Lindell was talking about is that September the 3rd, the cast of vote records needs to be determined. And for each person in their county to go on to the Frank Speech site, look at the information that he has about being able to cast vote records and people can actually do something about it right now before September 3rd to make a difference. I’ll send people out the information if they email me and I’ll also send it to you. I don’t know, if you have a way of getting it to people as well.

Lance: Yeah, absolutely and I was at that event where Mike was doing that symposium, that summit. CDR folks go to Frank’s speech and download it and don’t intimidated by the process. I mean they make it a little complex, because you need to be able to have evidence of your own vote casting. Because our objective our hope is they will not be able to scrub all the software of all the machines and have no record of how the votes were cast. That’s why you’ve got to demand your own record and then we’re going to follow up. Hopefully keep them from wiping all these software out so that we could go back and examine what happened in 2020. Because there’s a need for election integrity and they’re motivated to do a wipe out of that record. Go to Frank’s speech and look for the CBR activation. What you can do about your vote record.

Now, Pastor Colette, we got 2 minutes & 24 seconds left. Daniel prayed for his nation. He prayed intercession for Israel and it’s stands out to me as a sign that we’re supposed to be praying for our government according to what the spirit of God is saying what the scripture says. We’re going to be doing that big time. We’re visiting with you the 23rd, 24th and 25th of September. But what do you want to see happen when we get together in your church?

Pastor Colette: I want to see people from all over Kentucky, Ohio and Indiana come together.We’re in the tri-state I have big group of people that already said they’re coming. Rick Curry is bringing his network. He’s got to pick a bill at the Heaven Network. I’ve got one pastor called me today. He’s rented 5 rooms and bring us into our staff. That’s what we want to see. Everyone’s welcome. And we believe that we can turn the time if we just get out and vote. It’s important that we know how to vote and what the time is telling us. You spoke with totalitarianism. We can’t have We’ve got a sovereign God that is watching over this nation. We need to keep it that way.

Bill McGrane: And that’s September the 23rd, 24th, 25th in Florence, Kentucky.

Lance: Florence, Kentucky and you can find out about this because it’s going to be Heritage Fellowship Church where I’m going to be. So, it’s HFCUS.com. We’ll put it up on the screen. HFCUS.com. Make sure you get this information. I’m giving a shout out now. You’re in the Greater Cincinnati area. I’ve got friends there for Taylor. You’re out there giving you an invitation to put your army on the same agenda. Because the region that whole territory needs to come together as the body of Christ and literally stand up against the gates of hell. It’s amazing what can happen when we have unity, when we have prayer and we have practical calls to action. And that’s the reason why we’re going to be meeting there. 23rd, 24th, 25th.

I’m going to be speaking about and Mercedes, I’ve got 15 seconds. I’m going to invite you out there too. Because you got a practical guide that you’ve worked on of several steps for engagement. But I got to land the plane and end the broadcast and we’ll be back again with the Lance Wallnau Show tomorrow.

Closing: God is shaking thrones and dominions, principalities, and powers and that while he’s shaking them, in some cases, it looks as though reverses are happening but in fact, what God is doing is he is building his glorious house. He’s building his people.

Join us September 23rd through the 25th in Florence, Kentucky for the God Bless America Conference. Sign up now at “HFCUS.com.

Thanks for listening to this Lance Wallnau broadcast. If you enjoyed today’s show, make sure to subscribe and share the episode. See you tomorrow.

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