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End Times Prophecy – How The Beast Is Rising In 2023
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Lance: Israel is really preparing for war as China has brought together Saudi Arabia and Iran in a new kind of a cozy unity that is producing nothing but danger in the Middle Eastern instability. The United States is so closely tied to Israel I wonderfully understand that China is also preparing for war with the United States. They are looking at Taiwan and looking for sympathetic support for other NATO members. At the same time that war is happening in nations, 63 churches have been attacked just in the first three months of 2023. We’re going to cover the war in the spirit and in the natural in Prophetic Convergence.
I’m Lance Wallnau speaking to you from this desk here in the middle of the United States Dallas Texas with Washington right in my sights behind me. And then from the Middle East we have in Jerusalem Barry Siegel. Prophetic Convergence is a discussion that we have every week on current events through the lens of the Bible predicting where things are going and frequently teasing out the headlines that most people are missing. Because a lot of times news is controlled by the intelligence agencies of governments and you’re not actually hearing the truth unless somebody’s doing some courageous journalism. Barry, I came out of Israel a week ago, 73 rockets flying attacks from the north to south. I mean Hezbollah and Hamas, indigenous Arabs PLO and then you have this everything that Trump gave you in terms of his success in his own Abraham accords, has been systematically dismantled by the incompetence and I have to say demonic evil of the Biden administration. Now you’re a very precarious place. If Iran is on the path to getting a nuclear weapon, do you have any doubts that Bibi Netanyahu, whether they like it or not, whether the governments are fragmented whether trying to vote him out or not, that he will not hesitate to take action in order to preemptively destroy their ability to bring a nuclear weapon into Israel?
Barry Siegel: Well, let’s remember back some years ago while President Trump was in office that actually it was Benjamin Netanyahu then Prime Minister, who exposed on the stage of the United Nations as well as the rest of the world the intensity of the program and the detailed program that Iran was setting the stage for nuclear weapons. Israel probably one of its greatest feats by the Mossad went in during very interesting hours in a transition I believe in shifts, and actually hauled out by trucks the entire manuals and detailed plans of the nuclear weapons program. That was one of the greatest things that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu succeeded in doing as well as the Israeli Security apparatus. I’ll never forget, I think the European Union Foreign Minister at the time her comment was, “Well, I don’t know if that’s enough proof”. I mean it really; I just baffles me of these people just not only respond in ignorance but act like idiots and just blinded totally. But I thank God that it was exposed then.
I also want to share that there’s no doubt no matter who’s sitting in government as prime minister in Israel. We still have a cabinet that deals you could say a planning group in case of the threat of war and especially with Iran. So, I believe that no matter who would sit here as prime minister would respond. I’ll never forget it was well over 10 years ago when President Obama was in office following up George W Bush. He threatened Israel not to attack the nuclear facilities in Iran or the US Pentagon was threatening or coming from the White House that they would shoot down Israeli jets over the Middle East which was just unbelievable. And that’s why I believe that Prime Minister Netanyahu at the time didn’t take action and respond. But God knows the timing.
One thing we have to say though Israel must prepare for war. This is what our military strategist and military people are saying. Former national security adviser Jacob Amidor said on April 13ththat war with Iran is increasingly likely and Israel needs to gear up to attack even if without US assistance and I will quote him here. “We need to prepare for war. It’s possible that we will reach a point where we have to attack Iran even without American assistance”. This was said, Amidorwas discussing a flare up which of course we mentioned in the last program that happened while you were here and over the Passover holiday. “Iran is more sure of itself. It has managed to sign a number of agreements with Arab states. The world is starting to look different”, he said. Referring to the recent agreements with Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates. He also questioned and I’ll close with this the US commitment to Israel’s security quote. “America is not the same America in terms of its presence and the Iranians see that. The US has much Greater problems than the Middle East. The world looks at Israel differently”, he said. So, this is something that’s happening in the eyes of the Israeli military analyst.
Lance: Barry, read that read that last sentence again.
Barry Siegel: He said, “America is not the same America in terms of its presence and the Iranians see that. The US has much greater problems than the Middle East. The world looks at Israel differently”, he said.
Lance: Well, that’s the point, isn’t it? And that that quote is everything. “The world sees America differently”. They saw what Biden did with Afghanistan. Leaving a billion dollars’ worth of weaponry with the Taliban. They see him stumbling down steps. They know that America’s just prosecuted Donald Trump in order to try to put him in jail. The Democratic Party DAs have done it. America has lost its global prestige. We have never seen Anheuser Busch with its transgender marketing plan had rapid loss of money, but America’s prestige in the world is about the same. It’s gone down like an Anheuser Bush campaign. This is a moment in history folks. Where remember when Trump said that he believed if re-elected that we never would have seen Putin go to war with Ukraine if Trump was in office. We wouldn’t see the dollar decoupled from global monetary policy. We wouldn’t see Saudi Arabia trading their oil with China for Yuan’s. We’re watching right now the destruction of the American credibility around the world at a rate which is almost I would have to say it’s a judgement of God.
I think part of it is because we took the LGBTQ banner and we forced every other nation to have to stick that thing on top of their embassies. And I can’t tell you how many people from foreign countries came up to me and told me how greed they were as Christians. That in Africa especially that if they were going to play ball with Obama or with the Democrats and have any access to funds or UN programs. They had to affirm inclusion and tolerance. The language for embracing perversion and compromising the integrity of your faith. And I’m so to say, I think that I see a connection here Barry and that is that America has lost its prestige. I don’t think we’re a threat that is holding a whole lot back against Israel and Israel has a problem. Just in the United States has a problem.
But the answer might be in the fact that sometimes when things accelerate people wake up and they realize that there’s something being lost and they move more quickly. What’s happening for instance with Trump right now in this case with the elections. I’m wondering if it’s possible that them putting a gag order on him and piling one or two more indictments or whatever or the Mar-A-Lago paperwork. I think it’s going to be pretty obvious to everyone except the most radical on the left. That this is a political hit job, that is like a Banana Republic. And it could be that it evokes a sympathy vote for Trump. In a strange way, we might see this work out to our advantage. We only have a minute 30 in this segment. But what are your thoughts?
Lance: Well, I just want to go back to this whole issue that you know we’ve spoken before about this alliance between the United States and Israel which has stayed the course throughout every presidency in recent history. But this year on September 13th and 2023, we’re going to be seeing 30 years of the Oslo Peace Accords that were initiated under them President Bill Clinton and our foreign minister Shimon Perez who was a great architect. He was the primary architect of the plan, as well as our Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin who was later assassinated. What a lot of people don’t realize is that a lot of the characters in this plus with Yasir Arafat signing from the Arab side of things, he was given guns as a result of this agreement. And we’re no closer to peace in the Middle East and as the Psalmist says, “When we are for peace they are for war”.
So, the thing is that I think the mistake being made is that the world community is falling prey to the same type of thinking those were the words of an article I read. But I agree with it that the world is succumbing to the same way of thinking as they did 30 years ago and it’s not Bringing us any closer to peace. And it’s just amazing what’s gone on. One last issue of that peace accords that was signed. A lot of the people especially the person involved from the Norwegian side. These were high ranking freemasons which is a whole another subject in itself and maybe some of our viewers are members of that cultic society. But to say that, we have to be on our guard. We have to realize that we fight not against flesh and blood but against principalities and powers and rulers of darkness in the heavenlies and that’s why we’re called to be intercessors called to be Esther’s and called for such a time as this. So, I’m looking forward to the end times. Let them rock and roll. It’s not going to be easy, but we’re part of this last act in the play on the world stage. So, let it be and we will be right back with more to share about both Lance and I and the world around us.
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Lance: Welcome back to Prophetic Convergence and listen, we’re covering some news that’s kind of heavy. We haven’t even gotten in right now to the Muslim call of prayer that is now going to be filling the atmosphere in Minneapolis and many other cities where Muslims will be able to have the call of prayer kind of like you’re going to have a surprise, what it’s like when you got an amplifier on a street. You got to hear it. I love it in Israel. I’m familiar with it there, but boy when you see it come United States, it takes over your city. That’s the militant spirit of Islam. But it’s kind of like LGBTQ. Takes over your city. Takes over your children.
And what are you going to do folks? I’m going to tell you what you got to do. Grab your Bible right here. Second Timothy chapter three says the apostle Paul says, “But know this. That in the last days perilous times will come”. That were perilous. Caleppos refers to society bearing a virtue and abounding with vices. How did the apostle Paul know this 2000 years ago? Well, I’d encourage you that God showed him this because before Jesus comes back, evil is metastasizing. It’s manifesting more and more and then boom, it ends and the era comes to its closure. For men are going to be lovers of the moan selves. They’re without self-control. They’re running through cities rioting. They’re Thankful. With all the bounty that Americans have, all we’ve got is aggravated, angry people groups that are upset because they’re not getting more.
This is America’s like a petri dish of all this but the Bible does say that these folks that are under the influence of this perilous spirit, this perilous time are going to become more and more conspicuous. Meaning that there you’re going to see evil becoming more evil, but it allow you to know what virtue looks like also and the word is, “Therefore preach the Word of God”. Preach is what that Jewish Rabbi said. Preach the Word of God and proclaim the truth because there’s always going to be a harvest of souls and eternity is populating itself every day. And Yeshua is coming back according to Rabbi Paul at the end of the wicked age, the Messiah comes.
Now, the Minneapolis call to prayer. Five times Today, I’m familiar with that in the middle. Isn’t that right Barry? It’s a 5-time a day call to prayer. David just agreed to put it out there in Minneapolis which has a high Muslim broad population. But I wonder, I wonder if this resolution received support from numerous faiths including Christian and Jewish leaders who spoke in favor of extending the hours. So, it’s interesting that the ecumenical spirit. Do you think this is going to work out well for Minneapolis as Islam takes more of a powerful presence in the city?
Barry Siegel: Well, listen, I’m originally from the city Detroit and of course, I made Aaliyah here in 1981. So, I moved quite a long time ago, but Detroit had the greatest population, Muslim population in the United States. I can tell you that it was very interesting on the side of town, the northwest side of Detroit in the suburbs where I was from where my parents lived and my brothers, a lot of the Chaldean Christians from Iraq and the Syrian, Iraqi, Lebanese area. A lot of the Arab Christians of those three countries particularly, where did they move? They moved to the northwest side in the suburbs of Detroit, have some great restaurants out there as well to this day. But then you go down to Dearborn where my mother was born originally back in the 1930s,I believe it was because she’s still alive. She’s almost 96 years old. So, somebody can do the calculation when she was born. But having said that my dear mother was born in Dearborn which today is the largest Islamic population.
Now if this is the trend of Minneapolis becoming the first city to have the Muslim call to prayer5 times a day. I believe this is going to happen in Detroit, this is going to happen in other cities probably Washington DC eventually. Wherever there’s a large Islamic population, Los Angeles,New York City, and just as we saw over the decades what happened in France. I mean pretty much editorial writers are saying France by 2050 will become officially the first entirely Islamic State within Europe Central Europe itself. So, this doesn’t surprise me. This is the trend. They have a high birth rate similar to the Orthodox Jewish population in Israel. That’s what keeps us ahead of the game here. So, I believe that these prayers that are released are also going to release a very dark cloud over our cities and nations.
Now we have, it’s not a time for people to hate Muslims. That’s not the issue, but it’s a mandate and a call I believe you were sharing to preach the gospel of the kingdom. I believe that as we’ve seen many thousands of Iranian Persians come to know Yeshua’s Messiah, we will see the same amongst many of these cities that are now calling people to prayer in the name of Islam. That’s my thought on this take on this situation.
Lance: Well, here’s what I’m predicting. I’m predicting that Islam’s on the rise. Donald Trump was the death of Islam in the world system. I don’t know. He took down Soleimani with a strike and he put the, it was just an amazing guy. We’re going to look back on those days and say, for one brief moment we actually saw what America could look like with a leader. But Iran recoiled in horror. China, remember China was having dinner. President Xi was having dinner in Mar–a–Lago when Trump had authorized what was this 50, 61 Tomahawk missile to go pound territory in Syria. He explained to President Xi, I got to go make an announcement about these and he showed him pictures of the sarin gas victims that the CIA had showed him. And he said, this is I’m so mad about this I’m going to just go you would do that right, and then the President Xi said, yeah, yeah. In other words, President Xi saw this Trump. If you get him the wrong way, he’ll just throw he’ll drop tomahawk missiles on you. There’s a very interesting moment there in and then Trump said, and when we come back, we got a delicious chocolate cake and he told the president of China, delicious chocolate cake.
So, I miss those days. 63 churches were attacked in the first 3 months in 2023. Barry, I think Islam’s going to come back. I think the caliphate thing isn’t dead. I think that, I see the three the beast system of these empire spirits are all out there when they converge together you’ll have your final antichrist. You’ve got the caliphate system which is radical Islam. Look man, when you’re having Saudi Arabia and Iran unifying. Well, you’ve got the beginning of the unifying of the Muslims, right? So, it’s not good for Israel but that’s going to be happening. You got China which has its own aspirations to rule the whole world and they’re doing a very good job of displacing the United States. They see us as the rival they’re taking out, but you got the World Economic Forum. Those guys aren’t going to go down.
The IMF just unveiled a new global currency. See they have so much banking power in the west. And so, Putin and China they all got to play ball in the United States is diminished. It’s this new global currency they’re working on. The digital currency and the new banking system. And so,Davos and the World Economic Forum, these top corporations, they have a role to play and they’re part of the empire of the world economic. Everybody vax. Oh, by the way, Bill Gates I went to I went to Chat GP GPT, whatever it is. And I asked it does Bill Gates have a patent for vaccine technology with cryptocurrency and it does. He’s got a patent. So, when you get vaccinated in the future it’ll carry in it the nanotechnology for you to do cryptocurrency in a cashless society. Your vaccine will enable you to spend money. It could enable you on your right hand or on your forehead to buy and sell. All of its got the patent, so he makes all the money off the technology.
So, I’m saying Barry, I only got 50 seconds left here. I think that the world situation is going to be coming together in an interesting way. But the church and the gospel actually is going to have its best day because God says, in the midst of what I predicted would happen.
Barry Siegel: Amen.
Lance: I’m raising up a glorious end-time church. It’s going to be a model of demonstration of power. I want everyone out there to be able to get access to something Barry and I have for you.It’s a prophecy about the end times. Taken from the book of Esther and taken from the Billy Graham prophecy. He died and was literally buried on the Feast of Perm and he was in Washington DC on that great feast and God released a prophecy about the end times on that day.Go to “Lancewallnau.com/Esther” use the coupon code “Israel”. Get 10% off. Get the end time Esther prophecy because God is raising up an end time Esther and it’s you, my friend. We’ll see you again next week.
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