Christians Must Wake Up To God’s Call Of Revival Sprouting From Asbury

Lance: Welcome to the Lance Wallnau Show. Today we’re going to be talking about the phenomenal unexpected and yet coincidentally perfectly scheduled visitation of God that is begun in Asbury College. This is the last visitation was in 1970 and yet it’s the same day as I’m recording this today in the studio. It’s the same day here today that the Latter Rain Movement began in Battleford Canada and it was a Valentine’s Day Kiss from Heaven when God visited the Earth. The Kansas Chiefs actually won the Super Bowl in 1970 and now Asbury’s being visited again and the Kansas City Chiefs win the Super Bowl. I can’t explain. I’m not saying there’s a connection. I’m just saying I’m looking at the data and my mind is blown. And this is truly the gathering of God‘s visitation. I did a message recently based on Kim Clement and me talking about the gathering of the dangerous. He said, he heard God say that there would come a gathering, Satan would say they had a dangerous one. 

I put together a special teaching I want you to have on the end times ministry of the remnant that God is raising up in an awakening that Satan considers to be the dangerous ones. This is the Gathering of the Dangerous. You want to go to “Lancewallnau.com/Gathering”. This was delivered in the atmosphere of the tent meeting with Mario Murillo this fresh awakening that God is doing with revival in America with signs and wonders. Go to “Lancewallnau.com/Gathering”. You won’t be disappointed. It is the unpacking of what Kim Clement was talking to me about regarding the move that we are in right now. The Gathering of the Dangerous.

What’s interesting about the current events going on in many people that our field of revival and news are covering is the outpouring that’s taking place in Asbury. I guess it’s Bible College. It’s a Bible College and then they also have a university, which is like across the street. In Kentucky,something about Kentucky it’s where the Cain Ridge Revival was and it was just recently out there and was at the Cain Ridge Revival Place. This is like I don’t know an hour and a half or two hours south of there is where the Asbury campus is. And they have had roughly 10 visitations in the same location since its founding as a university or as a Bible College. Jim Garlow is a friend of mine. He was there in 72 and graduated and he was talking to me and sending me text about what’s going on. That’s why I first got on my radar because he was there in the aftermath of the first outpouring which is in 1970.

Now, I start getting all these like a lot of people do. I have these like tornado watchers that attack me 24 hours a day. If there’s revival activity, I’m in these chap threads as many of you probably are too. And I’m getting confirmation that something is happening at Asbury and then that there’s other universities or campuses that are also being affected at the same time. So, I went online to go look at it and I have to tell you that it was, I could immediately sense that this is an evangelical outpouring. So, it doesn’t have the Lakeland Pensacola Toronto flare for the Pentecostal and the dramatic. This is really what you have and what I imagine would have been characteristic of the revivals that are historic that we look back on. More like the Edwards Finney latter rain type revivals, in the sense that the presence of God is so weighty. There’s a lot of Welsh revival like worship going on. People getting convicted they’re heart pounding and then having to deal with sin or some idolatry, repenting, dealing with it testifying and that other getting convicted being let liberated and worship and a lot of prayer.

You put that into an environment and it creates a very holistic kind of especially for America right now. Where I think after we’ve had waves of Toronto and Pensacola and Brownsville and Lakeland. It’s a refreshing kind of re–digging of a different kind of well where it’s going to the roots of the personality of the messengers. Less about the manifestation in this phase and more about the introspection of walking with God and being convicted and open to what the spirit of God is doing. So, along those lines, I happen to be right in proximity to Larry Sparks who writes on revival studies revival and is a revival historian, likes similar to Jean Bailey. Spouse of Mercedes Sparks who is usually with me here on my shows.

So, I thought Larry I wanted to get your thinking heading out there. But what is your observation about this? We just did a flash point broadcast with Dutch Sheets and Hank and my senses this is already spreading to other places. I thought we would talk about what it looks like and what historically the implications are for what God might be doing.

Larry: Jonathan Edwards said that testimony is the wind that carries the fire of revival and I love seeing social media being used for a very redemptive purpose. Because so often you see so much contention disagreement on social media and as obviously there’s a place for that. But I’m seeing just a bombardment of testimonies of what God has been doing at Asbury people obviously ask is this revival. Because immediately the language of the Asbury Revival has been assigned to this. And based on what I’ve seen in many videos and then hearing firsthand accounts of people I know and trust who are there on the ground, I believe the spirit of revival is there. I believe when you get so many hungry, spirit hungry and thirsty people together in one place like that where there is this constant worship and it’s not. It’s not hyped up. It’s not drunk. There’s no professional videographer. It’s not like lights and fog machines. There’s a purity about it. There’s a primitiveness about it.

And to me, I see a manifestation of a disenfranchisement with modern Christianity in other words it’s so simple you look at the chap where they’re having the services. It’s not doesn’t have the latest gadgetry. It’s not like an auditorium. It’s a place that is simple where people are coming together worshiping, repenting, going to the altar, going to a lot of things, emphasizing a lot of things that some people would consider old school or old-time religion. But I feel like the Lord is bringing back some of the old school because I know this, the old school people got the breakthrough. The old school people saw revival and last 30 years. I think we’ve been trying to water down a lot of those things that are seeing emphasis now at Asbury.

Lance: So, let me summarize what you’re saying because your perspective is interesting. You’re saying that you have friends of yours that are over there and they’re convincing you that it’s authentic and that the spirit of revival is there. So, unpack for me. What’s the difference between someone who goes to a really great anointed, charismatic meeting where God touched them and they love the worship and the preaching was great and a revival. There has to be a distinction because I’ve been to a lot of great meetings.

Larry: Yeah.

Lance: And what are your friends just telling you? What’s the clues you’re getting?

Larry: Well, one of the things and I remember Randy Clark giving some hallmarks because Randy’s eyes have, I believe seen legitimate revival. And he said, here are some of the signs that I look for that a spirit of revival is there. In other words, the Holy Spirit’s there doing an unusual work. I want to be very careful because we can be so quick to say, oh this is the great revival, the end-time revival. Well, let me just say this, we’ve been in a period of revival or outpouring for 2000 years. The Holy Spirit has been readily available since the day of Pentecost and I’m convinced that anybody that experiences what we call in history books as awakening or revival. They’re just being obedient to what the scripture says. They are living like New Testament believers and saying we are going to preach the gospel. We’re going to teach the scriptures and we’re going to welcome an unhindered move of the Holy Spirit.

All equal, not whole Holy Spirit at the expense of the gospel. Holy Spirit at the expense of teaching scripture. You reference the revivals that forged our nation, Finney and Edwards. They were magnificent orators, preachers of the scripture but they welcomed the move of the Holy Spirit. So, the people who are there have been telling me, like I was mentioning, Randy Clark said, signs of revival. Number one, is that people don’t want to leave. People linger.

Lance: Okay. So, that now it’s going to this. Signs of revival.

Larry: Yes.

Lance: People that are there, I mean, when you have a church service that goes on as opposed to people looking at their watch and the deacons flicking the lights on and off. I mean, this is where this thing starts and doesn’t end.

Larry: Yes.

Lance: People don’t want it to end.

Larry: And I’ve been in meeting. I like, listen, I’ve done eight years of revival meetings or renewal meetings wherever you want to call them in Florida. And sometimes we think, well, in order for it to be a good meeting, we got to go three or four hours or whatever and people are done. It’s just like I know people who minister in charismatic environments and they’re like, I’m done. I pray for everybody I’m ready to go, but here there’s this uniqueness in that these students genuinely meeting God, repenting for sin. I think many of them are being commissioned into some kind of assignment. I really think there needs to be some language that comes alongside of these kids who are meeting God and saying, you’re actually called to multiply the spirit of revival by taking it into whatever field you’re called to go into. That’s where revival meets reformation.When somebody who’s touched by God which is happening right now personally, just using language that you use.

When you experience a personal renewal of your faith, revival, then, you’re obligated to take that out and to become the best revived doctor, the best revived lawyer, the best revived actor, the best revived government official. So, it’s experiencing God personally in these environments where people don’t want to leave because God‘s presence is strong and manifest but the other thing is this, is that you notice pockets of activity. That’s the other thing Randy Clark talked about. Pockets of repentance, pockets of people going to the altar. Pockets where things are happening that God is provoking and no human being is stirring up. That’s what I love even referencing Randy Clark. We both know him.

Lance: Yeah.

Larry: He’s not a hype guy. He’s a very quiet, mild-mannered man.

Lance: Right.

Larry: So that we see this activity at Asbury where nobody’s trying to emotionally manufacture something. God is doing something and they’re doing what they can to steward that.

Lance: So, to the point that you made that there’s probably a reaction of the students to the failure of marketing the high-tech mega experience which like Mario talks about the skinny jeans smoke machine, the big. And I’ve been in these great churches. They think it’d be great too. It’s not that God won’t move with the smoke machine. It’s that what you’re looking at Mercedes in this place is history. I mean, you’re back there in a chapel which had a visitation in 1970 and the architecture was not updated.

Larry: Yeah.

Lance: They’re singing with drums and guitars kind of like the biggest innovation that happened is the sound system got upgraded, but there’s nothing there. They’re singing songs.

Larry: Yeah.

Lance: Actually, that hearken back to the 90s on in some hymns.

Larry: Collins and Keith Green type of town.

Lance: Yeah. I mean, so do you think that this is a wake up to what youth are actually wanting in terms of contact with God or what is this saying?

Mercedes: Are you asking me?

Lance: Yeah.

Mercedes: Oh yeah, I don’t know. For me, you guys’ kind of fall on a different side of the not even a fence but you should have different perspectives and I think they’re really great. I’m not really part of the revival culture. I wasn’t saved in a revival culture. I was saved during a really powerful worship experience. And that to me testifies to the realness of God like when you have those types of encounters. I think what’s probably taking place here. The tangibility of the living God is so substantial that you’re really left with this sense of if God is real then what does that require of me. So, that’s my prayer when I look at something that’s happening here at this university compared to, I think what has been more mainstream that I think makes just me personally little uncomfortable of certain manifest.

We were talking about this off before we got on air maybe you can talk about it. But it’s almost like it’s a strangeness. It’s like a strange manifestation, a theatrical manifestation. This has none of that. This doesn’t feel that way at all and not to say that those things are wrong, there’s a purity about this that I think people are experiencing the presence of God that then pushes them towards okay now what does that require a me. What should my lifestyle reflect now like what Larry’s talking about of.

Larry: Yeah.

Mercedes: What does it look like going forward now? So that’s my prayer that comes out of this and I know it’s only been 6 days. So, and you guys have you’ve studied it. You’ve been in it. So,for me I’m like and I asked Larry genuinely the other day. I also asked you. I’m like, so how do you know after 6 days it’s a revival and just a prolonged powerful worship service. So anyways those are just you kind of answer that a little bit earlier. But yeah, those are my thoughts.

Larry: And I would say personally, what’s happening is whether or not one day the history books will indicate that this was a revival, what I’m excited about, like I think of Mercedes Salvation Testimony. I think there’s a lot of students there who are meeting the Lord really like you did. And I think they’re experiencing personal revival and that’s where corporate awakening big our revival happens like when we see God moving on that level. It’s starts with a personal revival of the heart of the individual. That’s what we’re seeing in a major way happening here which encourages.

Mercedes: I want to get in there though really quick that I think what I don’t like about on our side of the charismatic Pentecostal movement often times because I go to a lot of Pentecostal meetings with Larry. It feels like people chase an experience. They’re looking for some sort of…

Lance: Encounter.

Mercedes: Spiritual high, that to me, I don’t, I mean I’m going to say it this way. It’s like being married and the only thing that you want from your spouse is to becoming one. Is that if that’s the depth of like the emotional encounter you want the best of the best all of the time but that’s not marriage. Like marriage to me like with the Lord encompasses so much. So, like the thing that came out of the conversation we had last night for me is that encounter is not the highest form of intimacy with the Lord. The highest of intimacy with the Lord is obedience and so that’s what revival is always unto something. So, revival should push you into what is God asking of me. What is scripture saying? How can I know him more? What makes God happy? What makes God sad? What is he passionate about? What is he doing in the earth right now? That’s what revival should lead to, not the feel-good feeling which is awesome.

Larry: Yeah.

Mercedes: But when your heart is like, okay, my highest form of intimacy is obedience. Encounter happens on the peripheral of that because sometimes I think and you can speak to this either of you but sometimes, I think if we think if we haven’t had that deep encounter, that powerful thing in a long time, there’s something wrong with me. That maybe my relationship with God isn’t what it should. Be but in reality, if I’m living that fruit of the spirit, if I’m walking in obedience every day, what he’s asked me to do, if I’m reading his word, I experience encounter in those moments too.

Larry: Yeah.

Mercedes: Like I can have an encounter in a powerful sermon. I can have encounter in justreading the Bible. Doesn’t always have to be like, but I mean I don’t want to reign on the parade but I’m just saying that. I think revival is a powerful time.

Lance: I think you got to get her out to Asbury Larry. I think I’m serious about this. I will invest in that trip. I think that what you’re saying is totally legitimate and my experience with revival personally is that I’ve longed for the atmosphere of a genuine revival, because it’s different than the experience. Experience is a subjective. Atmosphere is objective. And a revival of the type that I think is happening is when you step into the objective environment. Meaning something’s happening here and it gets on you. Versus you trying to get something. You’re literally there and it starts to permeate you. It’s kind of like just watching the worship and just sitting there. I started coming at sobering conviction and it was not very comfortable but it was desired. Because I felt it was coming with intimacy.

I think the point that you’re making that is really important is that the charismatic movement, its strength is its demonstration aspect. It’s weakness. If I have to compare it to evangelicals is that it lacks often depth. And so, the scholarship is frequently with the evangelicals right Larry.

Larry: Oh yeah.

Lance: But the powers with the Pentecostals.

Larry: Yeah.

Lance: So, what you want to have been, you want to be able to look at some of these movements as to me even more than the movements that I’ve seen in the last decade and a half or two decades. Because this goes to look at the TikTok little subtitles. We’ll play them for people. Like on day one the meeting starts. Day two the warfare begins. And I thought it was an interesting statement. Whoever put that up there and you picked them for a reason. And it said the warfare against idols and deliverance and temptation and confession and forsaking. Meaning, I will say this, that Jesus touched down and engaged some of those students in such a way that they felt like the spiritual warfare over surrendering their life to Jesus was real. I’m wondering if a lot of revival isn’t the individuals vanquishing the foe on the field of their own heart, creating a deliverance where Jesus sets his flag upon the breast of that individual and boom, he takes over more territory in the atmosphere around the building and other people come in. And they have to,each one has a battle to whether or not you’re going to deal with what the finger of God is putting. But what a different phenomenon when it’s God probing you about what’s in you and what you’re doing versus you chasing something you want to get.

Mercedes: Yeah.

Larry: That’s right.

Lance: And I think that’s what I long for and it’s why I pray that the Asbury Revival as it goes off to our Pentecostal Hungary campuses.

Larry: Yeah.

Lance: Doesn’t become a preaching, falling out, shaking, prophesying prematurely. None of those are things aren’t real. I am a Pentecostal but I’ve longed for this convicting that has never been characteristic of our movement. I talked to John Arnott once about Toronto and I was sharing with him about this principles–and–values curriculum that was coming in that is very powerful in South America. He made the admission that the movement in Toronto was famous for People being touched by God and experiencing something of intimacy but that the values and the lifestyle and the it was a long slow slog of changing character. But a lot of God‘s experience,and he said that this is a piece which is really missing. I think that missing piece was because there was so much focus on the phenomenology of the experiencing of God, the Holy Spirit intimacy and that this corresponding teach that we would call legalism isn’t legalism. It’s the laser beam of truth putting a target on where the devil’s located so you could take him out.

Mercedes: Totally. I think it’s interesting too. We were talking earlier before we get on. You said, Perry gave you a call and you were talking about the Asbury University.

Lance: My friends all insult me. I had a busy. I have friends that, I have cultivated the right kind of friends. They love me and then insult me which is you want to have that. Keeps you grounded.

Mercedes: But I want to mention it, because what basically what he said is hey you’re really in the anointing for like 15 minutes, then you talk yourself out of it. But I think this is something to think about when it comes to this particular movement through what you’ve just said is that there’s something really pure about it right now. Something so simple about it and you see it’s like the revival groupies are all making a pilgrimage there until I go there.

Lance: I pray to God that we don’t mess it up.

Mercedes: But I like what you said though because it was like it’s so different. What’s happening there is God‘s coming down in such a way in a realness, in a nearness that it’s bringing a sense of conviction and a desire to, like that’s when I became a Christian. One of the first things you start reading, but it’s like Holy Spirit. You don’t even know it’s Holy Spirit but Holy Spirit’s like, you need to throw all that music away that you’re listening to. Hey, then you read this one verse, “Forgive, lest you not be forgiven”. When you’re a new Christian, you read that verse for the first time. All of a sudden, you go, oh my goodness. All that unforgiveness I’ve been carrying around I got, I kneeled by the side of my bed and I forgave every single person in middle school that bullied me that I carried over into high school.

Lance: When this happened?

Mercedes: I was in between freshmen and junior year, or no freshmen and sophomore year in high school. So, like 16, 15.

Lance: So, it was a youth revival.

Mercedes: Well, it was an encounter. I mean God just; it was Presbyterian church camp nobody thought and I mean it was so real for me.

Lance: Presbyterian.

Mercedes: Yeah, I came home, I didn’t even know who God was. But I came home I didn’t tell really anybody. I got in the car my I turned to my mother. I said God‘s real and she goes, no, I know I’m like no you don’t know. Because if you knew what I feel right now, we would be at church every single Sunday.

Lance: You’re making a great point. So, Larry one of the testimonies I heard. I got to find that clip I’ll put it in this, somehow in the YouTube channel or however we do this. You can always put links in there. This president of Asbury said that one of his gave an example of the way the move of God went. He said, there was a Salvation Army couple from New York who didn’t have much money but they had sent their daughter to Asbury and back then in the day, you only made a phone call, collect call when it was an emergency because you would, the charges would go to the other person because your kid doesn’t have the money. So, they said, honey, if any emergencies come, you call us but the criteria is, we’re going to trust God. You write to us regularly; we can’t afford a lot. So, just we’ll write a call. If you have an emergency. She calls up her dad in New York in the middle of the revival and he thinks it’s an emergency. He says, ‘What is it honey? What happened?’ She said, ‘Well, I’m in these meetings and Jesus is so real I just met Jesus.’ He said, ‘Well, that’s beautiful honey. I’m glad you had that encounter. Because no you don’t understand that I just met Jesus.’ He said, ‘Well honey, you had an experience with Jesus.’ He said, ‘No, you don’t realize all the years that I traveled with you and the Salvation Army and I did the ministry and I shared and I sang and I worked and I evangelized. I just discovered I didn’t know Jesus.’ He said, ‘But Honey, that’s not true. You knew the Lord.’ She said, ‘That’s what I’m trying to call you and tell you daddy, I did it because I loved you. Now, I do it because I love Jesus.’

Larry: Yeah.

Lance: I tell you what, that put the fear of God on you. Yeah. Because who knows how many people in our artificial superficial Jesus loves everybody almost influence of woke Christianity on the charismatics. How many of us, maybe we’ll find out we’re not as saved as we thought we were and some people aren’t saved at all or thought they were and it takes the actual finger of God coming down on your life to peel back the and say, are you going to walk with me or not? This could be the fear. This is by the way with the fear of the Lord as we pray about.

Mercedes: Yeah.

Lance: We pray about fear of the Lord. It isn’t about fear coming upon the abortion clinic. It’s fear coming upon the people that say they know God.

Mercedes: Well, it’s a terrifying. One of those verses in the Bible, it’s so terrifying to me is when these people stand before Jesus and he says, away from me ever, I never knew you and they said but we prophesied in your name. We cast out demons in your name. They understood the powerthat was in the name of Jesus. They lived their whole life thinking that they knew Jesus. Most likely today we would think these are pastors, elders, leaders, yet they stand before the Lord and he says, away from me for I never knew you. So, that’s what you’re talking about. It’s like, no, I didn’t know him though, dad. I know him now. It’s just powerful. I mean, encounter, I’m not denying the power of encounter, but it leads to what the road it leads to should be that constipated life.

Lance: You’re putting your finger, that’s why I’m cultivating what you’re saying because I think what you’re saying is true that the distinction between what a whole bunch. I tell you the truth, we got a whole bunch of people that are all excited about this. That may not even be walking in a condition that is conducive with it. In other, they think my fear is that a lot of my revival crowd. Oh, can’t wait to go where God‘s moving and doesn’t realize this might be a movement that will reveal that they’re not walking with God and they think they are.

Mercedes: Yeah.

Lance: The reason I say that is because when I have my first waved and my friend Perry. I’m being hard on saying he was rebuking me; he wasn’t rebuking me. He was saying to me he saw a broadcast I did right after the Asbury exposure and I admitted to the audience. I said, I actually don’t know how I’m going to go to the studio and do this. Because of that which I’m experiencing stays on me I’m really not good company for people. I don’t want to be around people. I feel like God‘s doing something in me. I don’t want to talk. I don’t want to hear my own voice. I have Some dealing to do with God. I want to be a pure vessel than I am. A less opinionated person,and I want to have the courage to say what is true but I want to have less of me in the opinion of it. He said that was actually that he could, the revival was coming through. Then he said then gradually as I continued on it lifted, he was honest about it. He said but go back to there. Larry, what are your thoughts?

Larry: You know what? As we’re talking, the Lord is really stirred in me kind of a prophetic picture, a prophetic model of revival. I’m thinking from the scriptures, Isaiah chapter 6 which is one of my favorite portions of scripture where Isaiah the prophet says, “In the year King Uzziah died, I saw the Lord and he was high and lifted up the train of his robe filled the temple”. That’s encounter. He saw the Lord Experienced the Lord but it’s interesting what happens to Isaiah as a result of this encounter. It’s not for a thrill or a zing. It’s not being an encounter chaser or revival chaser. He encounters God in the sovereign supernatural way, the way many of these students are. I’m going to even believe that those of you who are watching or listening that that encounter is available to you as well that you can experience the Holy Spirit and the power of God just like Isaiah did. He saw the Lord. He saw God for who he was and then I love what happens to Isaiah.

He says, I’m undone because he recognized his condition when measured next the holiness of God. He had this whole throne room encounter where he heard the song that is sung around the throne. Holy, holy, holy is the Lord God almighty. I think that’s why we love the old songs. That’s why we love songs about God because those songs give voice to the language that sung around the throne. Isaiah is undone before the holiness of God which I see happening right now in this revival, in this movement, wherever we want to call it. But I love the response. It’s one of obedience. In response to an encounter. If you just want it to be a good touch of God great. But every touch of God, I believe is meant to transform your life. And Isaiah’s response is this. He has an encounter. He says, “Lord here I am. Send me”.

He actually hears the cry of heaven where out of heaven comes a voice. Who will go for us? Who will go? Who will go and minister to the people? Who will go and actually carry this of revival to people who really need it? I love Isaiah’s heart. I will here I am, send me. So, I wanted to share that because I believe that’s a prophetic picture of what revival is supposed to produce there is encounter with the holiness of God that produces the fear of God. There is this I’m undone before him hence the repentance that we’re seeing but it doesn’t even end there it’s. God, I will go for you, I will go and I will be your hands. I will be your feet. I will do whatever you’ve called me to do. Whether it’s the Field, Mozambique like a Heidi Baker or whether it’s Washington DC in the political arena. I will go wherever you call me.

Mercedes: That’ll preach.

Lance: I’m telling you what, I’m loving this conversation so much. I would like to continue it tomorrow. If you don’t mind, we’re going to end right here, land the plane. And by the way, those who want to move in this unique season of revival. Remember, Ocala, Florida, Mario Murilloand I are renting out this huge Equestrian Center in the middle of Florida March 19th through 21st. You don’t want to miss it. Go to “FireandGloryTour.com”. Revivals in the air, the anointing is catalytic. This will probably be one of the best events we’ve ever done, because of what’s happening in America right now. March 19th through 21st. We want you to join us go to “FireandGloryTour.com” and find out how to get a seat at Ocala Florida for the Fire and Gloryevent with Mario Murillo and more.

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