Behind the scenes on the epic battle to blow up the Arizona Mafia

Lance: Well, ring a ding, ding, ding. There’s a song by this guy named Godfrey Brittle in Britain. “Are you ready, ready, ready?” I have to play that song for you for a cold open sometime but we are just so jazzed about what God is doing in America right now. We are not giving up. We’re not giving in. You’re going to hear from Mark Finchem today. Nominee for Secretary of State in Arizona. He’s a real hero of so many of us on Flashpoint, Lance Wallnau Show, Bannon’s War Room. He’s live and in person but before we go there, I’ve got something for the holidays I’m always trying to figure out what to do what to get. This is like a me-to-me gift. This is my wife and I do or if you’re getting something for your spouse and you don’t know what to get them,please I want you to go to Legacy Box. Look at Legacy Box and this concept is powerful. 

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Welcome back to the Lance Wallnau Show and we’re so thankful for all of you that are making this a success. We got Mark, we got like 850, 000 or so folks that’ll be downloading these podcasts every month plus another 100, 000 or $200, 000 in social media but I have a special guest here, Mark Finchem, who we’ve been watching. Of course, I got to know him from Bannon because watching the War Room, but you really became quite a national figure for many of us and of course then we got the wonderful dynamic duo. You and Kerry Lake both running and I think in the midterms the part that was psychologically the greatest I mean we could have dealt with a lot of red wave disappointment but you guys carried so much of our hopes for the future that I think that from my perspective the Democrats overreached and going back to Maricopa County. Which was a sore point all the way back from 2020. And once again demonstrated that they really don’t care what it looks like to be screwing up elections. I mean we have that endless counting going on after the Trump election. Look at those ridiculous, we’re trying to figure out what’s going on with people sitting at desks.

I can’t believe Maricopa would have a hutzpah to do this twice and I’m not trying to feed you the wrong kind of lines for an interview but what happened? Explain to all of us out there that knows something’s not right. What’s not right?

Mark Finchem: Yeah, so Lance, it’s not the Democrats. It’s the Uni Party. So, think about this. We have a Republican County record responsible for the elections in the voter rolls. We have four Republican County supervisors. One who teamed up with the county recorder. These are all Republicans. Teamed up with the Republican recorder in 2021 to start a PAC to take out make America great again Trump endorsed candidates.

Lance: Get out of here.

Mark Finchem: This is the McCain Mafia. This is the group of people who would rap put up candidates who would do the go along to get along thing as opposed to represent the interest of quite frankly Exodus 18:21. “Choose from among you Godly men, disinterested in personal gain”. And there is so much personal gain at work right now in in Arizona.

Lance: Such a great point.

Mark Finchem: It’s sickening to me that you got individuals who are supposed to see to it that we have fair and secure elections with their thumb of influence on the scales of election justice. It’s sickening to me.

Lance: It is. So, the nominee, you are the nominee for the Secretary of State and that’s a very powerful role because if something was to happen to the governor in Arizona, as I understand it, unlike other states, you would be the guy that would end up being governor and you’re the guy that nobody wants to see there because your thumb is not on the scale.

Mark Finchem: Yeah, that’s correct. So, in Arizona because we do not have a lieutenant governor yet. The Secretary of State is the facto lieutenant governor. So, and literally, I’m KerryLake’s life insurance policy.

Lance: Yeah

Mark Finchem: Because if something were to happen to her whether she’s traveling out of state if whatever come what may.

Lance: Adrian Fonte.

Mark Finchem: I’m the number two guy. Now if Adrian Fontes is the number two guy.

Lance: He’s like a Soros guy.

Mark Finchem: Well, he’s also the lawyer that represented the cartels in Fast and Furious.

Lance: Oh, that’s what you want. You want somebody representing the drug cartel.

Mark Finchem: So now you’ve got.

Lance: How the heck does it go like they get elected? How in America does that get elect? What in the world is going on?

Mark Finchem: Through a fictitious election.

Lance: Through a fictitious election. Thank you. That explains it all.

Mark Finchem: Yeah.

Lance: The people wouldn’t vote for that.

Mark Finchem: No and I think one of the reasons that I was targeted and quite frankly it’s a three-person target. So, Kerry Lake, Mark Venture and Abe Hamade who was put up as the Republican nominee for Attorney General, the three of us.

Lance: The three of you, I know you guys are like guard. That’s what I’m saying.Psychologically, if they had the devil overreaches I really, I want him to pay for this because I think we could have endured a lot of setbacks but we looked at you guys and said, but look at Arizona, look at Arizona. What does the attorney general do that’s different than, because a lot of us are getting an education attorney general is different than Secretary of State and you’re looking over all business matters, right?

Mark Finchem: Well, business matters but is the senior elections official in the State of Arizona. So, let’s revisit civics for a moment. We have 15 counties.

Lance: Right.

Mark Finchem: Each county manages elections. The state does not run an election. The counties do. But the Secretary of State oversees all 15 counties in how they perform their elections. That’s why we have this rather interesting conundrum with Katie Hobbs who is the Secretary of State administering an election Maricopa County, which she actually has an ethical interest in. She wants to be governor and Maricopa County ends up being a steaming garbage heap of an election that she certifies. She benefits from the certification. Now the point that I wanted to make with Kerry and Mark and Abe is that all three of us committed to looking at election process, election defects, frankly lifting the hood up on this thing and looking under the hood to find out where are the problems and what are the things that led us to broken down tabulator equipment. Printers that didn’t their job. The disenfranchisement at over 60percent of the voting centers because we don’t vote at precincts anymore which is one, that’s one of the ways to stop disenfranchisement. I mean you vote with your neighbors. You vote with an IV.

Lance: Schools and churches is where the voting happens. The fire station could use COVID to herd the cattle into government locations where they could rig it.

Mark Finchem: That’s right.

Lance: That’s my perspective by the way.

Mark Finchem: Yeah. So, we now have a situation where instead of three people who are committed to making sure that elections are secure and fair, we have an individual who exhibited a broken if if not non-existent moral compass to say, I am the Secretary of State and I could benefit from this election. So, perhaps I should recuse myself. She refused to do so. Even when called upon to do so. She didn’t have to be in charge of elections. She could have left that to her lieutenant who was not running for office. Now, everywhere I’ve gone across the State of Arizona the number one question that came from voters is how do we get a resigned to run requirement for the Secretary of State if that individual is going to be running for another office.That’s the number one thing that people want in State of Arizona. Number two, beefed up photo ID to prove that you are who you say you are when you show up at the polls.

Lance: But this is like so overwhelming. I’m looking at 65. What percentage of the people in Arizona right now question the validity of the elections results?

Mark Finchem: 73%. Now keep this number in mind. So, you got 73%. 35% of Arizona voters are Republican. 35 from 73. So, we’ve got a component of Democrats and independents who are saying, I’m not believing this election was so good. And 46% of Arizona voters have said,absolutely I think it was a fraudulent election. Well again let’s go back to 35% of those are Republicans. So, we’ve got it least 11% Democrat and independent are saying, hold on this thing is not right and that number also seems to be growing. So, we’ve got folks who have shown up in a number of protests who are calling on the courts to look you’ve got to take this up. Something is terribly wrong here. We’ve got people who were turned away at the polls. Kerry Lake herself had to go to three different polling places before she could vote. I’ve got personal two, three, four different places they had to go to before they could vote. Long lines, people who finally threw up their hands and said, I got to get to work. I’ve waited in line for 3 hours.

Lance: There’s a whole lot of ways 17,000 votes can come up with from those that didn’t vote to the suspicious origin of the votes that did come in and there’s no way of canvassing this, right? I mean, this gets a little exhausting after a while. How can we even verify the votes that were cast?

Mark Finchem: We’ve got a number of problems. So, for example, I’ll just list two of them. One problem, we have 298,971 votes. No chain of custody. They came in to run back election services. Nobody’s observing those. No party officials are watching those. Who knows what really happened there.

Lance: Wow.

Mark Finchem: That’s one issue. Then we’ve got some fractile analysis of voters that don’t exist. 55,000 voters that just they either died, moved away, moved to another county. They don’t have the authority to vote at the address where a ballot was sent. And I could go on.

Lance: 55,000 fictitious votes, basically.

Mark Finchem: Yeah. So, you’ve got Kerry Lake.

Lance: Who we don’t know how many of them are Republican Democrat. That’s the problem.

Mark Finchem: That’s part of the problem. But we’ve got.

Lance: I got a suspicion. I know how Democrats.

Mark Finchem: You’ve got that number but so let’s take a look at this for a second. Kerry Lake has got a 13,000-vote deficit. I have a 20,000-vote deficit. A 511-vote deficit. That is so outside of the historic behavior in a midterm of voters. Typically, if the economy is in trouble if you’ve got all these issues like what are surrounding the O Biden administration. They vote straight ticket down the line because they’re looking for some balance to hold the administration. So, how do you explain these wide variations when you go down the ticket. It’s just not even credible. So,if you take the 120,000 votes that were allegedly, I’m short by, that’s a 60,000-vote deficit swing between myself and Adrian Fontes. That means if there are 60,000 votes in error that were counted for him and should be counted for me, we’re a tie. That is not a hill that’s too high to climb.

Lance: Right. Especially when you took Maricopa County. You won. I mean you’re the nominee which means you already got the Republicans by like three points in three points. Which is like over 65% of the Arizona vote.

Mark Finchem: Yeah.

Lance: So, by if all those Republicans showed up and voted for you, you’re not going to have that big swing.

Mark Finchem: That’s correct. So how many votes and this is one of the arguments that we have in front of the court. There is no way of being able to quantify the number of people who just walked away the polls because they couldn’t wait any longer to vote. 60% of the polls in Arizona had a breakdown in the ability to print a ballot an own a ballot.

Lance: Folks, I’m telling you this is I feel like I’m having a Howard Beal moment like in network where I want to open the window and yell mad as hell and I’m not going to take it.Because I’ve been in two days of briefings on election problems in the United States and this thing is a systemic as you talk about systemic racism. This is a systemic system wide infiltration of four different ways in elections are being rigged, manipulated, direct, redirected. So, you think you’re voting. You’re not voting. Somewhat you’re giving people a result that they’re working around to put in office if they want to.

Mark Finchem: It’s a simulacra.

Lance: It’s a what?

Mark Finchem: A simulacra. It’s a simulation to placate the people into believing that you had an election. Now sit down and shut up.

Lance: That’s right. Yeah, and so what’s maddening is it’ll come down to this. Look how close it was. Well next time. So, you feel as though but when the outcome is like you like communism versus freedom. That 1%, it’s not just a wait till next time thing I’m telling you these people are out to destroy America they they’re dangerous you have a court case. I know that this is going to be coming out probably around the same time as the case you can’t say a whole lot. But what’s the theory of the case? Where do you think, this is going to go?

Mark Finchem: The theory of the case is we’ve got so much evidence to show that not only did we have a break in the chain of custody for ballots mail in ballot need to go away. Tennessee still has the absentee ballot system where you have to opt in in order to receive a ballot. And you have to give a reason. Now quite frankly I’m in favor of the idea of expanding the reasons. I’m not going to be home. Okay that’s a good enough reason to opt in. But that’s the point. You’re opting in as opposed to the Secretary of State and signing off on counties mailing ballots to every single person that could possibly receive one. Now we know that our roles are filthy. For example, just from the fractile analysis in Maricopa County, 55,000 voters that are there that don’t exist.

Lance: 55,000 non-existent voters.

Mark Finchem: Yeah, can vote. That’s just the most recent analysis.

Lance: And when you lose it by 17,00, I guarantee or 112,000. I guarantee they’re using every one of those levers.

Mark Finchem: Yeah, I would actually put it as a great description is a layer cake.

Lance: Now, think of it, okay.

Mark Finchem: As you’ve various different ways of manipulating the vote. You got people that don’t exist. You’ve got ballots that were put into boxes by mules. You have fictitious voters that suddenly appear in the system. I mean we’ve got some voters suddenly had their, without them knowing it had their zip code changed so the ballot was undeliverable. Something like 30,000 votes there. And then after the election their zip code is changed back to the original zip code.

Lance: Well by the way, I’m going to explain that because I didn’t catch that to Leon Benjamin explain it to me earlier. So, they’ll be people that are in these stay in these places some of these are crooked places that are sending out these ballots. I mean the Democrats make sure they know who they’re working with as a printer and they alter maybe the zip code by number or two so the mail comes back. So, when it comes back now the ballot basically is in the custody of the mail center. They could use that ballot they could use that as a fake vote and that explains why when people legitimately go to vote and they’ve already cast their vote. How was it they already cast their vote? They didn’t vote. Well, that ballot was used for that address and that name already. Is that how that works?

Mark Finchem: Bada boom bada bing.

Lance: This is like crazy.

Mark Finchem: Yeah. So, when you have and I think this is the strategy of the Uni Party I’ll call it. Because by the way, it’s establishment Republicans and Democrats and these are people who just want to on to power that isn’t theirs in the first place but they’ve seized power through the simulacra of an election. So, when you’ve got all of these different pieces that are coming together it’s not a surprise to me that a judge would look at this and say well it’s only 30, 000 votes or it’s only 55,000 votes. It’s the accumulation of all of these in the layer cake, because there’s not just one way of cheating. We’ve got so many different fraud vectors to try and chase down and that’s part of the Make it virtually impossible for the average man to look at this and say, okay, so how did you cheat? Well, let me count the ways.

Lance: Yeah, and this is, I hate being played for dumb. These guys are shrewd as hell. Because hell is coaching them. So, you have a court case. We have to deal with this thing quickly because the more time it goes by the more this thing gets hardened like concrete into an error. It’s like Biden. Do you think what’s the time period on this? What do you think happens? Do you think this case is going to get kicked up to the State?

Mark Finchem: So, there’s a move right now. Kerry Lake has a case that they had a hearing on today. I’ve got a case and these are separate cases. I’ve got a case that we had a hearing on today. Come this Friday I believe we have I think it’s a motion to dismiss which we will probably survive just because which is kind of odd because our case, Mark Finchem’s case is built on a statute. So, it’s a trial of law, not a try or fact. Then Monday we’re going to have evidential hearing. We’ve got Abe Hamade’s got to hear, I mean we’ve got all of these cases. Ultimately, I think there ends up being a move to consolidate because we’re all asking for the same relief. Same relief. Give us a new election. Paper ballots hand counting at the precinct level managed by a special master. It’s very clear that the individuals in Maricopa County had no intention in providing a fair and secure election. If it were not so, they wouldn’t have gone out and formed a PAC in 2021 to interfere with the election. That’s my case.

Lance: Say that again. Who formed a PAC to interfere with the election? These are Democrats or Republicans?

Mark Finchem: These are Republicans.

Lance: I want you to hear this, folks.

Mark Finchem: Republicans. Republican Stephen Richer, the county reporter, Republican Bill Gates, we call him Little Bill. He’s not the big Bill.

Lance: Right.

Mark Finchem: Jack Sellers. Keep in mind, these are the two guys that went up on Capitol Hill and admitted to Andy Biggs that they essentially lied to the Arizona Senate when they were subpoenaed for records in 2020. They said, well, we don’t have them. And Andy Biggs Godbless that man. I think he’s an American hero. I support him for Secretary of State. Or I’m sorry for a Speaker of the House in Congress. Andy asked them well why didn’t you supply these records under the subpoena? Well, they didn’t ask for him. Wait a minute. Now they asked for all records. What part of all don’t you understand? Well, they were archived.

Lance: Well, the flip is this is the way the devil and these guys do it. So even if you archive, they would’ve say, not to our knowledge what to check.

Mark Finchem: Well, they said that well we had to archive them so that we had room on our and this is where they got caught in a lie. So that we had room on our ballot tabulation equipment. Nandi’s like well so then why didn’t you archive 2018 and 2016. Those are still on your machine.

Lance: Right.

Mark Finchem: It was an embarrassing moment. But what it did is it revealed the extent to which these individuals will.

Lance: You know what our problem? Mark, I want to say something. I want to say tell the audiences. You know what our problems? You look at Bolsonaro in Brazil. In Brazil have not stopped protesting. They know the election’s stolen. They’re out on the streets. They’re out outside the military barracks. You know why? Because their Supreme Court’s corrupt. They know that the courts are corrupt. They know the election is stolen. They know Bolsonaro’s be president. They also know that the communists get in. They’re going to destroy the nation. They’re banging the pots and pans. I remember one time I was listening to a call as Obama was talking to 100 or 200 of his activists out there. These are all the 501C3s that are funded by Soros and those guys. And he said I want to do Obamacare but it’s not enough noise out there on the streets. We need to hear some noise.

You know what he was saying? Bang the Pots and Pans have some protest. Get some news. He wanted news buzz. You know what’s unfortunate about Phoenix and what’s unfortunate about Arizona is that conservatives and Christians are so civilized. They won’t go out on the street and do anything. They won’t make noise, but I’ll tell you something. There needs to be some noise in Arizona because these judges need to have some pressure on them or they keep collapsing. But you do need support don’t you Mark?

Mark Finchem: We do. Litigation is expensive especially when you have the likes of hundreds of attorneys that have, they’ve been researching this for a long time, Lance. I mean they’re this is going back all the way to 2016. They’re using the same defenses over and over and over again. And you’ve got these folks who their moral compass is either broken or missing. They’re willing to subvert this country on artifact on the idea that, well, we’ve got the law that we’ve got president, we’ve got this, we’ve got that. It’s like okay what about the truth of the vote. If you’re not willing to challenge I was called an election denier. I’ve never denied that we had an election.

Lance: Right.

Mark Finchem: Now if I’ve been an election skeptic damn straight, I have been in fact every individual who votes should be an election skeptic until the county proves their case that everything is fine. In fact, what we have done at this point is I think that with 72, 73% of Arizona’s likely voters now believing that the election was not legitimate. We have now flipped the narrative from we have to prove that there’s a problem to now the county has to prove there wasn’t. That I believe sir is what you’re talking about and that the people should be calling upon the courts, should be calling upon the legislature, should be calling upon every aspect of the government apparatus. Prove to us that this was a legitimate election. Show us the code that’s involved that’s the things we want to see in our court case. I want to see discovery of the code of the tabulation equipment to make sure that everything that Mike Lindell hasn’t alleged is not true. Prove Mike Lindell wrong. Well, and so far they’re terrified of that idea. Why?

Lance: Yeah. They don’t like it with Mike either.

Mark Finchem: Yeah. Well, that’s what happens when you’re trying to hide something.

Lance: Folks, this is important. I want you to support Mark. He’s an American patriot. He’s a great man of God. And I believe that his fight Kerry‘s fight that the fight that you guys are in right now is Holiday’s fight is little round top like Gettysburg. We can’t afford to lose this one. Do you realize we don’t have a path to the presidency at Pennsylvania and Georgia Wisconsin, Michigan, and Arizona are locked up the way they are? We need Arizona to be free. So, how can we keep in touch with you Mark and support you in this? You have a website?

Mark Finchem: Well, there’s a couple things you can do. One is “VoteFinchem.com”. That’s VOTE FINCHE like Edward M like Mark.com. If you make a contribution there, it goes to the litigation fund or you can send a check to PO box 44836. Phoenix Arizona 85084. I know there’s a lot of people that don’t like to do credit card stuff, so they can send a check in. If you’re going to send a check, make it out to law firm so that we can get it to the law firm that is actually.

Lance: Let’s do it folks. Let’s help them out with this legal battle. In Jesus name, I pray that you have all the support you need so that you can say at the end of the day, I have having done all to stand, you stood and you didn’t back down.

Mark Finchem: I have no doubt that we will have the support we need.

Lance: Okay. Alright, folks. Listen, we could go on and on with this but I’m going to have to land this plane but it’s already went 11 minutes over. That’s what happens so I’ll have an interesting conversation. Don’t forget to send us your questions. “AskLanceNow.com”. So, you can send me your comments or questions. “AskLanceNow.com” or people that you want to hear from in the future and I’m going to have to land this plane. Thank you Mark Finchem for joining us in our studio today.

Mark Finchem: Thank you for the blessing. I appreciate it.

Lance: God bless you and we’ll be looking forward to talking to you again tomorrow on the Lance Wallnau Show. Bye–bye.

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