Beautiful & Broken: sex trafficked and set free

Lance: Can you believe it? We’re back again. Back again into the Wild and Wacky World of Lance Wallnau Show and we try to we’re doing a lot of variety this week. And I have to tell you, it’s just up my alley because we were we’re doing supernatural signs and wonders. Current events, Middle East economics but now, we’re coming into a subject which is most interesting. My special guest Christine Soul is with me and she’s got such a fascinating life that I met her of course as a successful entrepreneur as a minister with this remarkable ministry for hope for women that. Which I wanted her to meet my wife, because my wife’s got this wild vision for restoring all these lies but then Christine’s doing it. 

So, I meet people all the time that are living the destiny of a vision. And so, but your background I mean I’ll let you tell your own story because I just want you to know something. Those of you that are deciding do I want to watch this. We’re talking about human trafficking all the time well now we have someone who’s going to give you some insight on the whole industry. The industrial complex that preys upon women, sexuality, and despair and it would ruin people’s lives if it wasn’t for the ability of God to break people out. Christine, welcome to the show.

Christine Soul: Hey, Lance. Thanks for having me.

Lance: And we got Mercedes Sparks over here and Carl. Just right there in the corner. Ready? In a moment’s notice for fact checking and punctuality. Where to begin? Because I haven’t interviewed you before but I know you and I had a chance to talk to you a little bit ago in San Diego. But so what do people normally want to know when they when they hear about your biography? What are they interested in?

Lance: Well, it really depends on the topic. I’ll start with, when I was 10, I started doing drugs, kind of a latchkey kid at age five and at 17, I got pregnant with my first child. 19, had identical twin boys. At 21, I was trafficked. I was a meth addict. I was filled with rage. I was living a gay lifestyle, hated the world, and at 21, I fell to my knees, cried out to God, and I said, if you are real, take my life, it’s yours. I so tangibly felt the power and presence of God. I went and I threw the drugs and alcohol in the toilet and I never had a desire, temptation, or withdrawal. I shouldahad a heart attack stopping the way that I did and I was completely and utterly set free in that moment. But it set me on this interesting journey of trying to figure out who this Jesus guy is and bouncing from couch to couch, house to house with three babies not knowing how I was going to survive.

Yeah, I was just bouncing around and I remember there was a point where I couldn’t even get a job that would pay for my daycare. And so, I was stuck. I was ready. I was willing but I was stuck. I found out all my bills one day and I thought, man, I have $40 to my name. I can’t even put a dent into any of this. And I sat there and I thought, you know what? God really saved me before. I wonder if he can do something with this and so I wrote a $40 check. I gave it to the one person that I knew that went to a Christian church and I said, hey, can you give this to your church and he had no idea it was the last penny I had to provide for my babies, but God provided every need. I never even had a late payment and because he does exceedingly abundantly above what we could ask, think, or imagine.

The person that I gave that check to is the guy that I’ve been married to for 25 years. The guy you adore.

Lance: Oh my gosh.

Christine Soul: Is that amazing?

Lance: That is amazing.

Christine Soul: So, I had an opportunity to really go from extreme poverty to a life of philanthropy for the last 25 years and about four and a half years ago, God said, now you do something about it and so we started a nonprofit.

Lance: Okay. So, you start a nonprofit. That’s is four and a half years ago. And the nonprofit’s mission is.

Christine Soul: Yes. So, we are a residential entrepreneurial training center. So, we house women but really our focus is that we help them to discover it is that God created them to be. So,our focus is prevention. Prevention is better than cure and so we instead of bringing in people who have been trafficked or who are currently homeless, we actually help focus on prevention.And if you look at the medical care system, we don’t say to people, oh I’m so sorry, I can’t help you because you’re not dying. Look at all the dying people and you wouldn’t say in the education system, I’m sorry you’re getting Cs and Ds but look at all those F students. We can’t help you. Look at the Fs. Be grateful for having a C.

We don’t do that in those systems but in the social system, we don’t help people until they have truly fallen off the cliff. And the problem with that is can we even get them back? What is the damage that they have to endure before we’re willing to help? So, our focus is that we help women really get the help that they need before they become a victim or a number of statistics.

Lance: Wow. So, give me and then Mercedes let you jump in here and say I see you nodding over there. Give me the profile. Typical profile of one of the gals that you help.

Christine Soul: Goes across the board but the number one place that we find our women is through the church. So the church is aware of who’s coming in and saying I don’t know how I’m going to make it next month. I don’t know how I’m going to pay my bills or I don’t have food for my babies. And those are just the ideal women for us because we know they have a drive to change, to grow, and to make something of their lives.

Lance: Its interesting.

Christine Soul: So, we give them the opportunities. We help them start businesses or we teach them skill sets where they can have a nice living wage or we also help them with looking at career path or school.

Lance: Well, there’s an amazing distinction aha I’ve had already. Just listen to you in a minute and that is you start with the women that are already looking to God for help.

Christine Soul: Yeah.

Lance: And have some history with the church, so that because in some cases we’re starting with people who just have needs. And then of course we provide, make the provision and then they’re back in the roller coaster back in the need zone then they even get evicted and then we have to start all over from scratch and then we’re trying to get them a job and tell them to go to church and it’s like we’re playing catch up with a lot of people.

Christine Soul: Yeah, you know.

Lance: So you learned something there, and Mercedes what are your thoughts as we’re.

Mercedes: Yeah, I was just interested and you kind of answered a little bit of it when we talked about helping and a type of help we’re providing. A lot of times in social programs, it’s almost like here’s a check, here’s some money, and you just kind of hope for the best, but it really sounds like you’re actually training them with unique skill sets and giving them, it’s that whole mantra of give a man a fish. He’s going to need another fish tomorrow. Teach a man to fish and we’ll fish for the rest of his life. Sounds like you’re actually teaching people how to fish

Christine Soul: And you nailed it. And it’s intense. In fact, we just had a new orientation, brought four new women in, three kids, and I sat there and orientation. I said, I’m not here to cuddle you. This is not what the real world is about and I tell them, I’m going to hurt your feelings. I’m going to offend you. I’m going to piss you off and I’m going to have you create ideas and we’re going to choose somebody else’s idea over it and I said and I want every bit of it.And with that, we’re going to have a million victories, but you see, I failed them if I don’t teach them how to walk through hard times. I want to be there for them. And even with our life coaches, it’s like, I want them to have those moments where they’re having a hard time or they’re in tears. Because our professor doesn’t care you’re overwhelmed. Your boss doesn’t care if you’re overwhelmed. So, I want to be there to walk with them through those moments so that they know they can overcome things when they get out into the real world.

Lance: I love this. So, okay. But you help them figure out what they can do.

Christine Soul: Yeah.

Lance: So, how do you do that? It’s like as I told Mercedes is similar to what she’s her gift is which is she can meet with some. Which is so ironic, because we’ve been with people in the course of years where we might even be having an exit interview where we’re deciding someone doesn’t belong on the team and she was just doing this weird moment when all of a sudden she gets really interested and she switched like she was like behind the scenes. She’s telling me you’ve got to make this toughest youth. That’s what your job is as a boss. You got to make those tough calls and go, alright, let’s have that meeting and I mean then she’s sitting there going. Now have you ever thought that you could do this? She’s actually putting together what they’re gifted to do and how they could get it, make a living.

Christine Soul: Yes.

Lance: And it’s like she suddenly becomes career coach. Now, I’m thinking, what is that? And I realized that’s a gifting. So, I figure you must do the same thing. What do you do? An inventory of their talents, gifts, and abilities and then then kind of like get a sense of what God might want to do or how does that work?

Christine Soul: Yeah, one of my big qualifying questions is if you could do anything in the world, what would you do? And if I can’t get anything, it probably means all of our ladies are either a yes or not yet. They’re never a no but if they can’t give me anything, it probably means not yet. If they can give me something, a spark of hope, something that causes them to light up, then I have a direction to start walking in. The other thing is I asked them, what do you hate? What really makes you angry? What made me angry was the fact that I needed help when I had my three kids and I couldn’t find any. That makes me live in. That became my passion to want to make a difference so that other people don’t have to go through what I had to go through. So, a lot of the time your gift, your Calling is also in what you despise and it’s your job to fix it. Do something about it.

Lance: So, you have two filters I’ve just learned already. One is you’re working within the church. So there’s already one filter there. There’s a pursuit of God and somehow they have a track record there. They’re going after an answer. Secondly, in your interview, you’re even determining if they’re ready yet to get involved with you and they might not be even if they go to church.

Christine Soul: Yup.

Lance: Well, there’s an aha. See? Little too much there on our end we’re saying.

Christine Soul: Still love them but they’ve got to work.

Lance: Gotcha. Alright so now what would you say to somebody that would make them in your orientation. What would what would offense someone? What would you say possibly could be offensive to one of the girls you’re working with?

Christine Soul: That would not be an orientation. That would be in our day to day.

Lance: Yeah I mean in your day to day. Yeah right, you’re warning them. This is going to happen.

Christine Soul: Yes.

Lance: Alright. So how do you do that? What would that happen?

Christine Soul: Because we are a work program. So we have different steps. We have two sides to it. We have Providence Heights. That is the life coaching, the counseling, the curriculums, kind of discovering who they are and what God created them to be in that area. And then we have the collective side and that’s our business side. So, there’s four steps on each side, and for the collective side, it’s learn, lead, land, and launch. So, that learning phase, they come in and they spend 12 weeks learning how to work with the products that we’ve created that they have created. I should say, the coffee, they do the marketing, the packaging, they do the labeling, all of the design of it is all of the women. So, we challenge them to start different businesses as well as they can start their own as they advance. But in those first 12 weeks, they have to learn Shopify, Ship Station. They have to do financial peace, and debt consolidation and so, it’s a challenge.

Then, the next 12 weeks in order to go to that next step, that leader step, then they have to now be able to be the teacher that teaches all of the learners. And so, they have to teach the classes that they’ve just learned. Then, in order to go to the next step, the land step and that’s where they really start to go, okay, what do I want my career path to look like. I’ve learned all of this information. I’ve learned how to build a website, how to do Adobe, how to do QuickBooks and now, what do I want to do from my path.

So, they focus on that but then they also are overseeing the new leaders who are watching and caring for the new learners. Then the fourth phase is they go into the launch phase and that is solely focusing on their career path and they can exit at that point or they could do a second year that is all just completely their career path.

Lance: What does that mean, their career path year too?

Christine Soul: So for instance I will show you my lovely bracelet. So, this is a gal. Her name is Christy and she came in. She was one that also had tried to get the help that she needed and she could not get any help. She had a little one as well and this girl had gone to a shelter that would not take her. They dropped her off in the middle of the night at a bus stop. There she was getting raped and after that is where she actually ended up finding our organization. She’s breathtaking. She’s amazing. We helped her in just really that discovery process but you know, she used to make bracelets as a child. That was her passion and so she started making bracelets again. She’s now in two different boutiques and she’s having conversations with Nordstrom.

So, this is a woman who couldn’t figure out how to get by and she is talented and beautiful and amazing and in fact, we loved her so much. We hired her as staff and she has other ladies making her bracelets now. So, the career path would be if they did a second year, she could just focus on that. And we help them figure out how do they get their business license, how do they figure out the finances for it. That kind of thing.

Lance: Wow. How many how many ladies have you put through this so far?

Christine Soul: So, we have 19 that have gone through and now 19 that we have now total in our facility and that’s with their kids.

Lance: Oh, they’re in the facility right now with the kids.

Christine Soul: Yeah. So, we’ve been four and a half years is when God put it on my heart but we’ve only been established for just over a year. We got our building. So, we started for about three and a half years just figuring out what the program would look like, the process, procedures, the staff, and then we found a building a year ago.

Lance: Are the moms and the kids in a facility that you’ve got or?

Christine Soul: Yes, they live there. They live in community. It’s absolutely amazing and yeah and it’s all Jesus in everything we do. They get up in the morning and they have something called Kingdom crew that they started. Where they work out together and they pray and then they do devotions and I mean it’s just Jesus and everything.

Lance: Wow. I’m just blown away. So, where do the kids go to school? I mean their ages are all different right?

Christine Soul: Right. Yes, so they go to the local public school that’s nearby and then we have a daycare that we work with and so most of them are out of that daycare as well.

Lance: But you have a vision. So, I saw something most interesting. You drew a picture right, of what you really want to do next. Tell people about that if you can? Because I think it’s like what was that movie with close encounters or that movie where people were drawing Carl. They were making these replicas of a mountain and then they ended up.

Carl: Close Encounters of the Third Kind.

Lance: It was Close Encounters but they were drawn they were they’re obsessed about a vision and then they show up and its actually there.

Christine Soul: Okay God gave me a close encounter.

Lance: Yeah, give me the close encounter.

Christine Soul: Could you see it if I showed you from this book?

Lance: Oh yeah, yeah. We’re going to do, we’re going to we’ll edit it so we’ll put it in for the people.

Christine Soul: Okay, perfect.

Lance: You can hold it up and I want to see it.

Christine Soul: Yes, it’s so cool. Let’s see. So, about two and a half years ago, God told me, Godshowed me a picture of the building that we’re to have. So, we’ve always had a sustainability vision that we would have office tower, businesses that we would operate a restaurant, a cafe, a boutique, spa. So, this is always been the vision. So, God gave me a picture of what it would look like. And in this picture, it had a residential tower to the left. It an office tower to the right and then it had retail space in the center. So, if you could see here, this is the space, but you know it was amazing because he gave me a vision that too that. There was a fountain in the center with a circular drive. And then as you enter to the right and the left is water, and that really for me signified just a cleansing a renewal purity and we found this building. We found it in October.

And if you look at to the that is the residential tower. To the right is the office and this is the retail space. It already has a restaurant and a spa. It has a huge open space.

Lance: It already has a restaurant and a spa.

Christine Soul: It’s crazy.

Lance: And it’s got a fountain out front.

Christine Soul: Yes, there’s a fountain with a circular drive and to the right and the left, it’s water. Isn’t that crazy?

Lance: That’s crazy people.

Christine Soul: That’d be our building

Lance: That’s when God gives you a vision. You guys see that? Did you see that?

Christine Soul: It’s crazy.

Lance: That blow my mind. There’re no odds that could do that. That’s why it’s like remote viewing. I see, but you got the vision and and you actually, yeah I guess God led you to the property that he was putting in your spirit.

Christine Soul: Yeah. Completely.

Lance: How far is it from where you are?

Christine Soul: It’s about 40 minutes from where we are and it’s perfect. It’s 97 rooms and the top floor we always had a vision for a church, a daycare, and a school as well. The top floor is almost completely open like it was created be a church. The next floor down is like school room sizes and the next floor down is like daycare sizes, tiny little rooms and then we’ll still have retail space on the main floor and office. So, it was created for us. I know that and I’ve traveled the world. You can find an office tower with retail space and you can find a residential tower with retail space. But I have never in all of my travels seen retail space with office space with residential space. I’ve never seen it.

Lance: No, because they would convert it all into bits square footage for business or something or one of the other.

Christine Soul: Yeah.

Lance: Your book, how much of this story is in the book? Is it like up to, does it include what your vision is for Providence Heights?

Christine Soul: No, that’s a that’s a pretty new vision. I mean, we just saw the building in October. So, it goes up to knowing that we’re going to start Providence Heights but we didn’t even have a building yet. So, not one story of one woman. So, I definitely need revised version, don’t I?

Lance: Well, another chapter all new and improved and now, you know. Just add one more chapter to it. Tell me about the workbook you’ve got. Do your ladies use that?

Christine Soul: Yeah. So, the workbook was actually really the reason for writing the book was to help the women and to inspire the women. So, wrote the book, the workbook goes with it so that they can do it as a curriculum and it’s awesome. They love it and there’s also a journal that we’ve done because everybody wants metrics, right. They want measurables and my big thing is you can’t women are not metrics. But we do need to know where we’re at and how they’re improving and where we can help them most.

So, we created a journal and it’s a daily journal and then they actually tally it. It’s called Hit Your Mark because we call them arrows. They tally up their scores for the day and then the week and then when they talk to their life coach, then, they go over how they did for the week. And so,they can actually see themselves improving and growing. It’s pretty awesome.

Lance: How do you pick your life coaches? Where do they come from?

Christine Soul: Jesus. Man, we interview them and I’m just like, oh man. It’s hard because we only hire, we hire based on whether we believe they have the same DNA.

Lance: Right.

Christine Soul: And that’s hard to discover and only God has brought the perfect people to us.But our newest life coach that we have is a gal that I met at church who’s a quadriplegic. And I had said to her, you know, I’d love to hire you and she’s like, she’s never had a job in her life.She’s like, I don’t have the training. I’m not licensed and I said, would you get licensed? And she goes, well, yeah but she goes, I don’t I don’t know that I’m qualified. I’m like, your life. You are the greatest example. She is the most joyful person you could ever meet. She’s so forward moving. She lives independently as a quadriplegic like I never complain after meeting her. So, what better person to really cast vision.

Lance: Someone else is something about you. I mean, you have it in your DNA to redeem people from situations that but apart from God, they never get out of.

Christine Soul: Yeah.

Lance: So, it’s like you just do that. That’s part of what you’re gifted to do.

Christine Soul: I’m passionate about finding out what it is that that people love and drawing out the best in them and watching them grow and flourish.

Lance: Well, I’m curious about your journal. Could you could you read to me a couple of the categories that’s in the journal?

Christine Soul: Sure.

Lance: Because I’m going to let people know how they can get a hold of it.

Christine Soul: Yeah. All of this is on Amazon. So, this is what they look like. So, it’s how am I doing tonight. So, this is what they do in the night and it’s their care total, Christ total, and collaboration total. So, you have peace, joy, confidence, sleep, and self-control. This is monitoring how did I handle my day and then this is Christ total. It’s Bible, prayer, sharing, presence, and the calling. Are you talking to people about Jesus? Are you discipling? And so,that’s and in collaboration is community serving relationship, collective, and career and so how are they doing on that path?

And then some of the things is just this has scripture and then you write your priorities for the morning. What you’re grateful for in the evening. What did I accomplish? What was a struggle for me? How did I go out of my way for others and what are your impact moments for the day?And then they have some different things at the end of the week and they kind of tally and contemplate things.

Lance: I love it.

Christine Soul: It’s a lot of fun.

Lance: I think that’s just fantastic.

Christine Soul: Yeah. I enjoy doing it.

Lance: So then get a hold of the book. The name of the book, the title of the book is?

Christine Soul: The book or the journal?

Lance: Both.

Christine Soul: So the book is called Broken & Beautiful and the journal is Hit Your Mark.

Lance: Fantastic. Mercedes, you have any thoughts, anything and Carl, I’m going to give you guys one bonus round while I’m wrapping up.

Mercedes: I think there’s going to be women who see this broadcast and think to themselves, I really need help too and they’re going to want to figure out how to get in contact with you. So, is that something that your organization is doing right now and if so, do you want to provide contact information for that?

Lance: Oh, absolutely. So, if you go to “Providenceheights.org”, there’s an application button that you can click on and it tells you all about the organization. I think the number one thing is people feel like, well, I don’t know, I’m not that bad and when people contemplate, I’m not that bad, they’re probably that bad. So, I would say just look at the website and see what we offer. I had one girl who actually has a business already. She does candies and I said she goes, ‘I don’t know that I really need it though.’ And I said, ‘Well, it shows here this is what your income is,and she goes, yeah.’ And I’m like, ‘So, can you survive?’ And she goes, ‘New and I said, we can help you with your business.’ So, we’re going to help her business.

Lance: Oh my gosh. My audience.

Christine Soul: Yeah.

Lance: Get ready. Get ready honey. I got lots. I got a great tribe of people out there but I bet you there’s a ton of people going to come your way.

Christine Soul: Well, if you got a passion to grow and you’re ready to be a part of a community and help others thrive, you’re going to see yourself living abundantly yourself.

Lance: That’s why I wanted you on the show. I wanted them to hear your spirit and listen to your vision.

Mercedes: Also, I want to throw in there. I think people are going to want to also partner with this vision because clearly, you’ve written it down, made it plain so other people can run with it. So, if they’re interested in helping you build that building so that you can serve more women in need, more small families. Is that going to be the same web address?

Christine Soul: Yes, perfect. Absolutely.

Lance: Alright. Alright, still be able to go to. Once again, the web address is?

Christine Soul: “Providenceheights.org”.

Lance: Alright and we’re going to make it so that people can know what to do when they go there to help support that. Carl, do you have anything else you want to throw in there?

Carl: I have some questions that I’ll say for after the broadcast. I’m curious about working with social engineers, people who basically pimp out these women. I know that you’re more focused on the Christian church-going community but I’m curious about follow-up steps for those women who are so in ingrained in the society I guess, and like that culture. But yeah, I’ll save that for off camera. Thank you so much for that.

Christine Soul: I love to say on that one.

Carl: Yeah.

Lance: But I don’t understand. What was the question though?

Carl: Well, the question is being reserved for later but the question was basically like with the company Providence Heights as well as with your outreach. How do you go about interacting with those social engineers, those pimps in order to find out what the tells are and how to get these women out of those situations?

Christine Soul: Yeah.

Carl: But we’re already overtime. So unfortunately they’ll just have to be for a separate conversation.

Lance: Well and that’s a little bit different because you’re meeting them in church already so.

Christine Soul: Yeah.

Lance: You get a, but I’m sure as an evangelist you can’t help yourself.

Christine Soul: Everywhere you go.

Lance: Everywhere you go you’re finding stories to tell. Alright. Well I love this program so y’all want to be able to make sure you follow up on this. Get a hold of that book. Do you have any social media?

Christine Soul: Yeah. It just “Christinesoul.com”.

Lance: Alright. Well we’re going to be checking that out.

Christine Soul: Yeah.

Lance: And we’re going to have to Wrap this up right here but I want to remind all of you that are watching this that yeah, I always admire is how Ben Shapiro can go seamlessly into a sponsorship commercial. It’s like effortlessly done, but so I’m going to say this is where I want you guys to go. With all the disruption the food supply and the anxiety that’s happening right now, we in our own office have an endless amount of 5 or 6 different types of homegrown leafy vegetation that’s fresh and literally it’s growing in the office. This is the amazing thing. You want to be able to go to Lancewallnau.com/.

Mercedes: Garden.

Lance: Garden and you’re going to be able to see what we’re doing in our homes and in our office to get our own way around the anxieties of a food supply and a food chain and supply chain issues. We’re growing around. It’s like Jurassic Park back there people. Check it out. We’ll put a picture up for you. “That’s Lancewallnau.com/garden”. See you again tomorrow.

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