Double Header: Pharma Demons Exposed and Inside Secrets If You Run For Office

Lance: Today’s show is going to be a double decker. I’m telling you it’s going to be wild. I’ve got a woman who is an expert in activating you for your political and civic engagement. The kind of work that you’re going to be doing is going to be changing the world. Many of you are feeling the burden and the anxiety about getting involved with government. Getting involved with the school board. Well, Terry Hasdorff is going to be telling you how to do that and I’m going to show you the steps you’ve got to take. Also, I’m going to Doctor Jeff Myers. An expert in understanding what is happening in the takeover of western civilization with this whole transgender confusion. He breaks it down in a way I never understood it. Just my friend Ben Berkoff explained to me how the big money gets broken up into the nonprofits in the United States that are getting the people in the country. It’s so frustrating. When you realize it’s a business, it’s a business that’s working with your transgender kids. You realize your portrait when they’re confused about their gender sexuality identity. These chemical companies, these medical companies, these political ideologies, they’re latching onto their vulnerability and they’re hurting this next generation. But I want you to hear that. 

Now when I’m doing these kinds of shows and I’m thinking about how to break the cancel culture, how to educate our people, how to mobilize our people. One thing that really bothers me is I’m reading headlines about the WHO trying to take over all the pharmaceutical industries trying to shut down America again with the next pandemic and Biden giving up our sovereignty. The grass fed there are food products that are getting actually injected with stuff. I can’t go into details now except the government is allowing the food products, the meat to get injected. I want you to go to “Lancewallnau.com/GoodRanchers” for the one place I can get meat where the meat is pure. It has no injections in it. And I bet I set my price way in advance and they deliver it to me. You got to check it out. “Lancewallnau.com/GoodRanchers”.

Lance: The next segment I’m going to do is probably one of the most important ones we’ve ever done. Doctor Jeff Myers is with me. He’s an authority on the influence of culture on the next generation and specifically I’ve been wanting to get a handle on this weird transgender takeover.I mean it’s metastasizing into an everyday issue. I don’t know where there’s an end in sight,because it’s getting the marketing backing of Wall Street. It’s getting the curriculum backing. It’s like a diversity issue now. The weird clown car administration that we’re all learning how not to be critical of with Biden, with men and women, men in women’s roles, women in men’s roles and the guy with the dress with the bald head that got arrested for luggage theft. And we’re all going, yes, it’s unfortunate. This is strange what’s happening. 10 years ago, would have been absolutely absurd like a Jerry Springer episode. Now, it’s actually as normative. What happened in America?

Dr Jeff Myers: Well, Lance, several years, decades ago in the academy, people decided we don’t want to have the idea of absolute truth anymore We don’t want God. We don’t want even any influence of good or evil or right or wrong, true, false. So, we’re going to get rid of all of that. Instead of seeking the truth, we’re going to teach people to speak their truth.

Lance: I just get this straight. So, I did this 7-Mountain analysis a lot, right? Where in academia did this start to show up? How did it penetrate into the halls of education?

Dr Jeff Myers: In the sociology department of all places. That is where it happened. Not in philosophy. You would think, oh post modernism, it’s very philosophical. That must happen philosophy department. No, no. The philosophy department was talking about whether of God‘s existence was real or whether he’s just our perception of reality. In the sociology department, they said, well, here’s how we’re going to live that out. Here’s how we’re going to live it out. We’re going to tell people, there is no truth that is available or accessible to you. You can’t know reality. You only know yourself. And then after that, it happened in the English literature department because they said, well, if there’s no reality that we can really know for sure, then, our talk about reality is all the reality we will ever have.

So, using words to describe our self-perceptions is what makes something real. And all of a sudden, the English literature people got on board with it. And it’s now become an aspect of the culture that is a taken for granted. People say don’t seek the truth just speak your truth. So how did that relate to transgender.

Lance: But do you subscribe to what Charlie Kirk says and I think it’s all going to end in the same location here? He says, what happens in the university and the college campus of one generation will be on the street and politics and your culture and the next. Is this when the education domain that it’s really become normalized in culture?

Dr Jeff Myers: There are two things happening right now. There is an ideology that says truth is only knowable by you personally.

Lance: That’s overall.

Dr Jeff Myers: That’s right. Yes. But it’s now funded by an industry. So, you’ve got young adults who are uncomfortable in their bodies which often happens with young adults who are being told your problem is not anxiety. Your problem is not depression. You’re not your problem is not purposelessness. Problem is that you’re a girl and you’re born in the wrong body, so we can fix that using our medicine and it only cost you say $35,000 for the puberty blockers. So, there’s an industry that’s willing to take advantage of gender insecure people especially minors to make billions of dollars. And as soon as that happens, then the schools get on board with it. Because those clinics that are making all this money are the ones who are training the teachers in the schools and then the culture gets on with it because after all this is an industry and it’s all about making money. It’s crash commercialism.

Lance: I just got done talking to Ben Barclay, who’s our guy on the border and he dumps out all the paraphernalia. And he says, the Lutheran charities, the Catholic charities, the Jewish charities are the biggest partners with the cartels because there’s hundreds of millions of dollars in the business. And I’m stunned because I mean I’m stunned now because if I keep peeling the layers off, it totally makes sense. The industries including pharmaceutical and the medical that make the money off all of this of chemical and surgical alteration, they actually are really, they have an incentive to go for it.

Dr Jeff Myers: Of course. And they have an incentive to get legislators to back off of doing anything about it. So, at the federal level, the health care industry spends $725 million dollars a year at the federal level lobbying the federal government. That’s more than a million and a half dollars per member of congress lobbying them. Half of that money is from the pharmaceutical companies. So, nobody in Washington DC wants to say anything about this because they are being funded in their campaigns and their staff getting to go to baseball games and all those kinds of things by the very people who are the ones using these drugs to mutilate kids.

Lance: Doctor Jeff Myers, you have a book “Exposing the Gender Lie”. Let’s just focus on next. We’re zeroing in on that right now. What does this book? Is this what our conversations about right now? Seems to me every parent, every culture warrior needs to know this whole subject.

Dr Jeff Myers: Yup. You can download this book for free. “Summit.org/Protect”.

Lance: Are you serious?

Dr Jeff Myers: “Summit.org/Protect”. So, my co-author and I decided that, this is so important. We just want to give it away so that people will forward it. So, people have been forwarding it to their school boards, their state legislatures, members of congress, and it’s to have a real influence helping people see that this isn’t about gender insecure kids. They’re in many ways the victims at the current time. This is about an industry and an ideology that target gender insecure people to make money and to gain power.

Lance: This even makes me matter.

Dr Jeff Myers: Yup.

Lance: I mean because a lot of my angst gets focused on the aggressive transgender activist who looks to me bizarre frankly because I’m looking at a guy who’s a girl, a girl is a guy, and then they’re all eccentrically tired and they’re coming at me because I’m supposedly a hate person. All I’m doing is holding up books like this and going, check this out but really, that’s not the object. The object is the people behind it that are poisoning people.

Dr Jeff Myers: That’s right. Yeah. The ideology is an ideology of confusion. So, if you don’t want there to be such a thing as truth or falsehood. You have to break down all binaries. Well, the most obvious binary in nature among mammals is male and female. We are dimorphic. We are or female. So, if you want to win the day for a postmodern ideology, you have to break down male and female and get people to think even if it does exist it’s not relevant to anything important.And that’s the situation, we’re in.

Lance: And what bothers me is and you’re using language here and understand why transgender ideology is taking the world by storm. But in reality, what worries me most is it’s not really taking the world it’s taking the collapsed western civilization by storms. So, to the extent that even France who is the most radical and England are saying, France specifically saying to the United States just chill out a little. Because our crazy is even more crazy than they’re crazy. And it’s pretty bad when Europe says alright back off America, we got other fish to fry here other than your crusade. But the Muslim world isn’t buying this. In fact, I’d say one billion Muslims which has been a fractured cultural front line for many reasons. I think this creates a resurgence of moral high ground in nations and I guarantee communist China is looking at this. And I know this for a fact because of my connections there. They’re saying look at what happened to the United States. What happened to the United States? I mean they want to take us out but it’s like the Olympics. We are the country to beat but they’re looking at us beating our self-up. They’re going I think with TikTok, we’ll just keep feeding their sexual depravity I think they’re self they’re consuming themselves.

Dr Jeff Myers: Yeah, you’re on to something here so in the past there were authoritative communities that helped young adults into adulthood in a positive fashion. It could have been a boys or girls club. It could have been a local church. It could have been a local parish. There are all different kinds of these organizations.

Lance: Mediating institutions is what a culture.

Dr Jeff Myers: Mediating institutions now are gone. So, young adults have direct access to social media where they can find people who they think they are like and just like we used to take personality test and think, oh, that’s so me, right? That’s what they’re doing with a lot of this and thinking, alright, if I identify transgender. My parents will think I’m heroic. My friends will think I am heroic. I will be able to explain all of the neurosis that I can’t otherwise explain in my life and then the industry is saying, wow, interesting that you’re in this place because we have got some drugs for you.

Lance: I’m seldom speechless because I make a living talk in a feeling dead airspace. We’re going to have you on again because 15 minutes is not enough. We need to do a whole show on this but you’re coming back to truth changes everything. Talk to me about this.

Dr Jeff Myers: The battle is between will we seek that truth or simply try to speak our truth. In the past, people who believe that Jesus is the truth change the world in science, in art, in education, in politics, in justice, even in the idea of how we work. In human dignity and medical care, in all of these areas, it was Jesus followers who said, the truth exists and it’s not just a set of logical propositions, it’s a person. It’s Jesus. Entirely aside from the truth of that claim which I believe and the Summit Ministries we talk about this from an apologetic standpoint all the time.Entirely aside from the truth of that claim, it was the Jesus followers themselves who believed it and in the course of time change the world. Science is a fantastic example of this. Of the 52 individuals who came up with all of the inventions and discoveries that constitute modern science only one of them was an atheist. Only one. You would never hear that.

Lance: Do you know how long I had to travel around the world to find a guy like you. So, two decades ago, I took the research of like Bill Bright and Lauren Cunningham on 7 Mind Moulder’s of Culture, 7 World King, etcetera. And I had an encounter with a senator who became, well guy who real estate guy became a senator and it had to do with 7 Mountains. So, I started talking to 7 Mountains. It became kind of a shorthand. I think it’s the charismatic community that time was the last one to get into culture change.

Dr Jeff Myers: Right.

Lance: Because that tribe is so Pentecostal experiential.

Dr Jeff Myers: Yeah.

Lance: And nobly, so they’re commission focused and all about evangelism. So, I’ve began then to try to assemble. I didn’t even know you existed. I’m sorry. I didn’t know somebody exist but I talk about mountain tops being the peak institutions that shape culture and I’m looking down and I’m saying and Christians in science and in media and in art and in business and in education. We’re at the summit of all that in history, but I had could not find data and here’s a book that has it all right front of me.

Dr Jeff Myers: So, all the data is right there. Yes.

Lance: “Truth Changes Everything”, Doctor Jeff Myers. How people of faith can transform the world in times of crisis. How do they get a hold of the book?

Dr Jeff Myers: You can find that anywhere books are sold. You can just Google the term “Truth Changes Everything”. You can also come to “Summit.org”. “The Exposing the Gender Lie”eBook is free. “Summit.org/Protect”. You can just come there, download it, forward it to friends.

Lance: Oh, I see. You got Steve Green. These are all folks that I’ve worked with, the Hobby Lobby and various others. So, I look forward to got so many great endorsements here. Alright, so I’m glad that I’m catching up and my audience is catching up and you need to get a hold of this book. I’m serious. Not every book is a book that I’m pushing, this one I’m pushing because I’m going to read it myself. You know why? Because you identify the contribution of Christians throughout history. Because psychologically, we tend to feel like we’re like the ugly duckling in culture when in fact we have driven the progress of western civilization. Which is why I’m saying our absence is creating a vacuum where these other ideologies are eating our lunch and they shouldn’t be, because the territory really belongs to us.

Dr Jeff Myers: That’s right. We would not even have a 7-day work week. A 7-day week in which we have work days. We would not even have a belief that humans have dignity if it were not for Jesus followers who moved into areas like medical care moved into the idea of work, the value of work, all of these things. So, it’s unbelievable. I did all the research when I was going through a battle with cancer and I thought it might be the last book I ever get to write and I thought, you know what? If it is the last book I ever get to write, this is the core message because it is truth. Truth in Jesus that changes everything.

Lance: Well, Doctor Jeff Myers, we’re going to be working together in the future and I got other people that need to hear what you’re talking about. This audience is going to get the book. “Truth Changes Everything”, Doctor Jeff Myers and write to me when you do get the book. Thank you, Doctor.

Dr Jeff Myers: Alright, thanks, Lance.

Lance: And I’m going to be looking forward to talking to you guys in one minute. We’ll be right back.

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Lance: Welcome back to the Lance Wallnau Show and you’ve just heard this idea about dealing with woke culture corporations. I can’t believe how menacingly expansive that is that everywhere we’re going the headlines are all about corporate America, the business mountain. One of seven that I’ve been prophesying for 20 years is going to be the frontline battle for the end time church and now it’s manifesting. But I have somebody that’s already been running into the fire on the government mountain for years. Terry, you have been with us on Flashpoint.

Terry Hasdorff: Yes.

Lance: On several now where I probably have you here sitting in the studio. Tell us a little bit about, well tell us anything you want to tell us about “Running into the Fire”. Because I’m trying to motivate our people to civic engagement and even the new church model that I’m saying is you have alter-cultural salvation. How about alter-cultural discipling your city? Everyone that comes forward is essentially willing to get involved with civics. Get involved with the school board. Get involved with the offices that are local. Talk about this book.

Terry Hasdorff: Thanks, Lance. Well, it’s an honor to be with you. I ran for congress in Alabama in 2020 and I took over a super pack and after I finished with that, I felt like God really put it on my heart to write this book and the reason why I named it “Running into the Fire” is because I was talking with a friend of mine who had also run for congress about the same time I did. And I asked him, why do you believe Christians shy away from being involved in politics?And he said because they’re afraid of it. They think of it as being dirty and corrupt. He said, that’s exactly what I hear over and over. He said, but you know what? They really need to doing is thinking of it more like people who are in law enforcement or firefighters. Because they’re trained to overcome their fears and instead of running away from the burning building, they run right into it.

I thought, that’s it. 67% of Americans identify as Christians and Christians are called to walk in faith not fear. So, this is a time in our country when political engagement is incredibly important and needed and the body of Christ needs to get more involved.

Lance: This book, I’m telling you I saw this on Flashpoint the other night I’m glad I got a copy of it now. I’m going to give you some titles. You tell me what the what the chapter’s about. “This is what they will eat”. What’s that about?

Terry Hasdorff: Well, I was in Africa and had an experience that I talked about in the book where basically a gentleman that took me on a tour of something called the Mathari Valley which is one of the worst slums in the world. And he showed me that because of the involvement of their church, they had made a huge difference in feeding some of these orphans there that were basically going to starve if they didn’t have help. I didn’t quite understand the impact of what he was explaining to me until he took me to a 50-foot-high mountain of garbage and we walked halfway up that mountain of garbage and he stopped suddenly and he pointed down and he looked at me and I was told bewildered. I couldn’t understand why he would be showing me what he was showing me. It was I found out later a rotting pile of goat intestines and I looked at him very confused and he understood why and he said, this is what they eat. If we don’t feed the children, this is what they come and eat.

And you know what hit me so strongly after I reflected back on that experience is that it just was one person. This man and his wife who were the only ones there making this enormous different in the lives of these children. And here in this country, we are so incredibly blessed that even if it’s just one person, if you’re passionate enough, if you’re fired up you can get involved and make a huge difference on issues on legislation on running for office. And that is something that needs to be protected and is very precious. I traveled to Russia on an exchange program when I was in high school and I saw firsthand what communism does to people. We’re on the brink of socialism which is a transition into communism in this country right now. It’s on our doorstep.

Lance: Let me say something which is a little bit unusual but while you’re talking, I’m thinking about a friend of mine named Dennis Peacock who’s an economic and he’ll point out as a Christian. He said, you see that screen right behind you here? You see the couch you’re on right now? You see the book you’re holding right now, the microphone, the croup, this is all economics.That economics is tied into all this that your system of commerce and economics determines your level of flourishing. And when you embrace the communist, the populist, the corruption that is coming into America right now, go look at the countries that do that. And you’re on that pile of garbage rummaging for the goat intestines. You’re in Venezuela rummaging through the garbage. That it’s tied together. Economics, freedom, government which is why you really can’t separate the Christian from, because there’s no membrane that’s separating them from you.

Terry Hasdorff: That’s right.

Lance: It will come into your life. It will surround you. It will end up in your kitchen. So, what’s “the less than 1% chapter about?”

Terry Hasdorff: Well, Elma’s named the book that because that’s the percentage of Americans who gave to political campaigns in the 2016 election cycle.

Lance: Less than 1% gave.

Terry Hasdorff: Less than 1% of the population. So, if you’re like me and you’re honest and you’re trying to run and you’re a Christian, you think, well, I’m going to go to other like-minded Christians and say, hey, I’m running for office. You know me. Can you please support me?because this is after all a marketing campaign and I’m in the fight of my life with people that are dumping hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Lance: Yup.

Terry Hasdorff: And over and over and over you hear oh I’m sorry we don’t get involved in politics. Well, if you can’t go to those folks, you have nowhere to go unless you take money from people that many times are probably not going to do that without expectation.

Lance: Do you have advice for people that have a calling and they feel like they’re like, my audience will go Well, I feel called to do something. I’m going to run for something. What kind of advice are you giving people that really feel called?

Terry Hasdorff: Well, first and foremost, pray and make sure that your timing is right, but second of all, it’s so critical to get trained. Christians can feel led to do this but you can feel led to do brain surgery. I’m not going to let you do it unless you’ve had a lot of training.

Lance: Good point.

Terry Hasdorff: So, it’s kind of the same thing.

Lance: I may love you but may I trust you.

Terry Hasdorff: God can call me to climb Mount Everest but I’m not going to go do it tomorrow. So, it’s like anything else. You have to start somewhere and you learn by doing and it’s not as hard as you think sometimes and you start small. Start on the county level. In my research for this book, I realize that there’s a little over 3,000 counties in America. Now I may not be able to make a difference for the whole country, but I can make a difference in my county.

Lance: Do you know there’s like 3,143 or something counties. I’m learning the number now because there’s 17 counties that we’re focusing on evangelistically for the next election 17 counties, 7swing states. It gets kind of very personal.

Terry Hasdorff: It does.

Lance: You have a book; you have a chapter here on support it.

Terry Hasdorff: Yes.

Lance: Tell me about that because that gives some deep information.

Terry Hasdorff: Well, that right there is the heart of it. The body of Christ, you may not feel like you’re called to run for office yourself but that doesn’t mean if you’re a Christian that you get a pass because you need to help support those who are called.

Lance: You hear that? It’s not about whether you’re running. I don’t think I can replicate. So, why do I always think that way? How about helping the courageous person that needs you when they run?

Terry Hasdorff: That’s exactly right and that means supporting them with your wallet, with yourtime, with your influence. You may go door to door for that candidate. Look at the gentleman who won an office in New Jersey by just going door to door. He was a truck driver. Everybody thought he would never win but he did. So, it can happen. You don’t need millions of dollars sometimes to do this. You just need to be supported.

Lance: What a quote you got here. “The enemy on our doorstep”: And this is pastor Matthew Maher. “Government apart from God becomes God”. Is that not what’s happening right now?

Terry Hasdorff: That’s exactly what’s happening right now. Communism and socialism. Socialism at its core is about replacing God with government and freedom with tyranny and we just can’t let that happen here.

Lance: I want all of you to get this book. It’s an easy read. It’s an informative read. This is from a woman who’s on the inside who can coach you, who’s run for office, who knows the experience, has worked with congress. Terry, you pronouncing him, Hasdorff?

Terry Hasdorff: Hasdorff.

Lance: Hasdorff. I will keep wanting to add an A in there. Hasdorff, and listen, go to “Lancewallnau.com/Running”. I’m partnering with her with Terry to educate everyone in our movement. Our 7 Mountain Arts 7–M community. So, you want to go to “Lancewallnau.com/Running” and get a hold of this. I am burdened about something. Terry, tell me what you what you’re seeing. I’m concerned that I’ve got multitudes that are listening to me and other people. And that because I’m trying to be polite and my friend Mario calls, he picks sanctified fights for himself all the time. But in my case, I try not to mention names because I struggle with the fact that I don’t want enemies to the right. I got so many enemies to the left that I don’t want to turn around and go and a couple of these guys over here you want to keep an eye on. But the reality is we have a vastly underinformed community that thinks they’re on the inside track, because they’re listening to people with so-called secret information. And I’m sorry to say for all my Q Anon and followers out there. That a lot of it comes from cunningly devised myths is what the Bible calls it and then when the real gunfight is going on over here.

Terry Hasdorff: Yeah.

Lance: They’re all eating popcorn and what thinking they’re in the real thing. White hats and black hats and what’s going on and pedophiles and this and that. And they’re actually a spectator audience spell bound by narratives that they’re listening to and they’re posting and they’re saying as though they’re part of some great underground movement because you’re sending stuff to each other. You’re not. It still comes down to who’s in office, who has power, who’s publishing, who’s educating. I mean, do you see the same thing I see which is it’s like a mental virus of deception.

Terry Hasdorff: Lance, you could not be more accurate. In fact, this is a major problem. It’s a weapon of mass distraction. It’s pulling us away from what we really need to be focused on which is getting involved, exercising our civic duty and engaging politically because that’s where the real fight is right now. And if we’re not doing that, there’s a void and somebody else is going to fill it and it may not be the people that we want. So, you are spot on. There are so many people that are putting out a lot of disinformation. There’s been a lot of documented Russian disinformation and Chinese disinformation and it maybe that the person who’s even putting it out doesn’t know that what they’re putting out is.

Lance: And what’s worse is they’re attributing source credibility.

Terry Hasdorff: That’s right.

Lance: Like I’m with General Michael Flynn. He is supposed it theoretically to a whole bunch of these other people that think that Donald Trump is really running the country as the president. He dissolved the government because of some technicality in the 1800s that you can do and that he and a couple of white hat generals are really running regions. And I get that are really fanatical about this. You know something? I think it’s crazy. But what’s really irritating to them is if I say Donnie Trump doesn’t believe it. Eric Trump doesn’t believe it. General Michael Flynn doesn’t believe it. And I’m just going to tell you if they don’t believe it the boss doesn’t believe it. But if it helps you feel, it gives you peace of mind, understand it’s not real. But that’s not the game changer. The game changer is where the left goes. They give you the disinformation.

Flynn thinks it’s a psyops. He thinks the CIA and the government is actually pumping information into the insurrectionist, extremist, conservative, Christian, right-wing January 6thcrowd in order to distract them from the real battle which is getting out the vote, showing up, controlling the polling locations and citizen journalism. So as long as they’re over here chasing that they’re not going to show up where the electoral list. Does that make sense?

Terry Hasdorff: Well, it’s just a time in our country where political engagement has been at an all-time low in a lot of conservative circles and it’s just so critical. This could be one of the most important elections we’ve ever had. I know everybody hears that every time but there’s just nothing more important than getting involved on a local level. So, be informed. I’m not saying that people shouldn’t be trying to educate themselves, but you need to look for verified sources but most importantly, you just need to seek out the truth yourself.

Lance: Yeah, and here’s and my final pleat. I know there’s vast deception. I am aware. I just had Ben Ber. I did a show with him. I know that the I know that there’s Christian charities supposedly Christian charities of the Catholic and Luther and even Jewish foundations that are working believe it or not with cartels to bring people in. I’m aware of how bad that is. But I don’t want to have a false hope that the solution’s going to come from some great plan that is being worked out by the genius of Donald Trump. I know Donald Trump is in the fight of his life in order to figure out how to keep himself from getting put in jail by a corrupt system in the Department of Justice that will prosecute FBI agents that covers up the IRS Trail on Hunter and that interferes with electoral justice with 50 signatures. We’ve got lots of problems here and the solution is get involved, right?

Terry Hasdorff: Get involved.

Lance: It’s got to be salt and light. To be salt and light, you have to have come in contact with the petrifying flesh. Preserve the meat. Salt is a preservative. You got to go where the corruption is and our pastors, let me just take 1 minute I know I got to end the scene but when on internet I can take a liberty for a minute or two. Our churches are, how many churches do you say are on board with the with the urgency of the hour to do something and what percentage of churches are avoiding the subject? Do you have a sense of this?

Terry Hasdorff: I don’t have an exact number but not nearly enough. I can just put it to you that way. In fact, one of the things that I write about in the book is the power of the body and the church is such a powerful force. When I say the church, I mean the collective of Christ but individual churches are so afraid of this. I put an entire chapter in the book to just give them very clear understanding of here’s what you can and cannot do so that you don’t have to be afraid. You just have to be informed and educated. Even civics training is something that churches can do and nobody’s going to come after you for that. That’s politically neutral, but it’s just teaching people about what is good government.

Lance: I personally think the business leaders in the church, I got to go for the business people because I know pastors, they’re more political and think. If they’re bored, they’re elders and they’re most significant members that write the checks and tithe and advice. If they say, we ought to have that biblical citizen journalism or whatever it is that that that biblical citizen thing or we ought to have a certain speaker come in. The pastor has to put his finger in the wind and go my people are going there. I better get in front of the parade. So, “Running into the Fire”, Terry, we need to read this book and how do they follow you on social media?

Terry Hasdorff: So, I have a website “GodOverGovernment.com” that they can go to. The book is available in all the major retailers. Amazon, Barns & Noble, Books A Million but you can go to my website “GodOverGovernment.com”.

Lance: Your books available in all those places. They haven’t cancelled you.

Terry Hasdorff: No.

Lance: That’s a sign in itself that you’re available in all those book places that I couldn’t get a book in. Good for you. Alright Terry thank you very much. We’re going to come back again. Don’t forget “Lancewallnau.com/Running”. You can get this book. We can read it fast. We’re going to talk about it together. We’re going to have on our show in the future, Terry Hasdorf. Thanks a lot.

Terry Hasdorff: Thank you so much.

Lance: We’ll be seeing you again tomorrow.

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