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On today’s episode of Prophetic Convergence, Lance and Barry Segal discuss the populist backlash happening in Europe and how it ties into the awakening in Israel. Join them as they explore the parallel tracks between Israel and the United States, the globalist meddling in Israel of their media, financial institutions, and foreign relations, plus the dangerous propaganda surrounding impeachment. All of this and more on today’s show!
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Lance: Europe has just had elections and the fault lines couldn’t be clearer in terms of the populous movement that wants their nations back. And the beast bureaucracies that want to control the people the same phenomena’s happening in the protest that are spilling over with agitation in Israel. It all comes back to what’s happening in the United States where the elites and the power of central government is visibly suppressing the people willing to put Trump in prison.And Trump warns if you do that, you’re exciting potential and that’s exactly what they want. All that and more in this episode of Prophetic Convergence.
Well, welcome to Prophetic Convergence. This is an interesting and a different kind of a news analysis where we take the Word of God and the current events and merge them together so that we have an understanding of what’s really happening and even more importantly, we discover predictably what’s likely to happen next. And we give it from the US perspective here from the desk in Dallas and my friend Barry Siegel is back us from Jerusalem live, right on the front lines of things. Barry’s going to be able to tell us his perspective from the Middle East as to how the news cycle’s going. Welcome Barry, good to see you. You look refreshed.
Barry Siegel: Shalom. I feel refreshed and also got a bit of a sun tan out on the golf course.
Lance: Well, in the midst of all of the battles that we go through, the Bible does talk so much about the 7th day, the day of rest on the Sabbath, that I think is kind of an amazing thing that the Lord built in every week. There’s a cycle of renewing and rest even as hectic as life gets. So, I’m glad that you you’ve done that. So, Barry, I’m looking at the news cycle right now. What got my attention in the last 24 hours is that something which is not being talked about, which is what I love to do on Prophetic Convergence. Talk about the real news everybody else misses and one of those stories is the populist nationalist party, Vox, which is a mob like MAGA. It’s in Spain. They just had an election. They fell short of being able to dominate the country and form a coalition government but they are pro family. They are anti-illegal immigration. They are against the gender issue that’s going on with the children and in almost every respect they’re gaining strength in Europe. And it’s not just there but right now, I just found out that the UK, Scandinavia, Sweden, Finland.
A number of European countries have banned transgender surgery. And I bring that up, because I believe that there is a resurgence of a kind of a moral pushback on the freewheeling aggressive nature of the woke system that American funders and globalists have been pushing down the throats of Europe, the United States, and South America. And we’re looking at the beginning of populous backlash, which I believe all feeds into the revival and awakening thing that we pray for. Because it’s really a moral revulsion against the control of people’s destinies by an elite in Brussels where it’s in Europe or in Madrid where the centralized Europe connection is for Spain or in DC or even in Tel Aviv and Jerusalem. So, I want to swing over to you and say, we’re watching these fault lines and I want to say it again our audience. It’s populist nationalism. It’s not just believers. The believers don’t occupy that biggest segment of the society but they’re part of praying into a popular pushback on the realization that centralized government is controlling your life and wants to dictate how you live, where you live, what you eat, and literally vaccine track you into oblivion So, we’re seeing an awakening happen in that regards. But tell us specifically what are the riots about from your perspective in Israel and then I want to offer my theory as to how that ties into what’s going on in Europe.
Barry Siegel: Well, first of all Lance it’s great to see you again and I wanted to just make one quick comment concerning the elections in Spain because the outcome of the elections was 169 votes of the populist vote for the more right and center right parties against the 153 votes for the center left parties. So, it’s a very close, it’s not a clear majority. Let’s put it that way. But again,the populous vote is winning out across Europe in many places as it did Italy as we saw. Now what’s happening in Israel is a little bit confusing to the normal mind reading the news and in the Western Press. I mean basically right now there are hundreds of thousands of people that have been out in the streets protesting every week for some time now and especially over the last 7months as judiciary reform legislation has been proposed to change three major laws in Israel. The first of them being the reasonableness law which would give more power to the IsraeliKnesset in parliament to override the Supreme Court of Israel on any decisions it makes.
Now the problem with that and I’ll just explain a little further is cancelling the clause means that the High Court of Justice will be unable to apply the test of reasonability to challenge government decisions or appointments. Now it’s not so simple as people think. Because there arelegitimate concerns. However, having said that we Israelis who live here whether we’re more for or more against it or somewhere in the middle. I think there’s an acknowledgement that our system was becoming somewhat of a dinosaur and archaic. So, there was some degree of judicial reform that was needed. But the problem is we have extreme parties pulling apart towards the right and the left. And has implications long standing implications in Israel. So that it’s not just oh I’m going to vote for BB because he’s been the best Prime Minister Israel’s ever had or because the evangelical Christian movement has been overwhelmingly pro BB.
There are issues at stake here that might allow those who were indicted for criminal offenses to come back into the very same positions and power in government that they were that somebody specifically was sent to prison for. And that’s just one example. So, people feel in Israel. I’m trying to explain the broader perspective of this. There are lots of people that are concerned that more and more power is giving to the extreme end of the right for lack of a better description and that it could have implications on the population. Whereas up until now more or less the status quo has been kept. If you understand my drift to the situation. So, this means that a lot of people that maybe shouldn’t be in government are in government or stay in government and that’s something to be said about term limits and of course other legislation.
Lance: Well, okay, so here’s what the analysis is that’s coming from a lot of our side over here. What we see is the parallel tracks between Israel and United States are so close, because we have a lot of our, let’s face it Soros and a lot of our big money people have tentacles that reach through their open society right into the media press and NGO activation in the Middle East. You have Tel Aviva as the LGBT capital, the Middle East. They’re very happy to say so. Where do you think they get the backing for that? The funding and the modeling for that activism. So, here’s what we’re looking at. We believe that your Supreme Court is exactly where the Democrats want our Supreme Court to be. Which is in a sense a ruling party that will endorse the decisions that they want to make and overrule the decisions that are made in opposition to their party interest.
So, for instance, you’re seeing articles coming out by Harvard right now. Not by accident. These are all like CIA and State Department planted narratives which is how the academic community is saying that we have a right-wing imbalance, MAGA court with Trump and we need to remove from federal judges that were MAGA appointed by Trump as though he’s out of balance himself. What we’re looking at is that your Supreme Court doesn’t really have in a sense the acid test constitutionally of ours has held a strict interpretation of rights, etcetera. So, yours looks as though it actually has the power to undo the will of the people. So, if the legislature and the population votes for something, but it doesn’t line up with the ideology of the court, and the ideology of the court by the way seems to be aligned with the administrative state which is what the left wants to do in the United States. So, it has its own kind of agenda and I think it’s been frustrating the flow of decision making in Israel.
It goes into another idea which is that you’ve got the ultra-orthodox and the religious that are on the right and then you have your secular Jews on the left who many of them are not nationalists they’re actually more globalists. They’ve been heavily influenced in the military for instance by our own state department and by our own Department of Defense, which has tragically gone woke here. So that influence has always been there under the surface. And our thinking is that what Netanyahu is attempting to do is to actually bring balance so that the court doesn’t become its own rogue branch of government that constantly frustrates the reforms that are that are fought out in your Knesset that is legislated and then overturn because it doesn’t match the ideology of the court. Does that make sense?
Barry Siegel: It makes total sense, but I think when we come back after the break, we have to focus even more on some of these details. Because the other side of the coin is that the government in power, whoever that be and usually it’s led by the Prime Minister and none of the seats of that particular political party almost never break similar to what happens in the Congress between the Democrats and the Republicans. Although sometimes you do have breakaway Democrats that vote Republican and breakaway Republicans that vote on Democrat issues. But what I’m trying to say is it swings both ways this pendulum and there’s a scary possibility that either side could go off the deep end with it. And this is where the Israeli public has been very concerned, because I understand the whole globalist threat and obviously agree with you on that wholeheartedly. But I think we should come back to this after this break. What do you think?
Lance: Let’s go for it. I just think that the subject is so important Barry, because it touches on the themes that are at work in world powers in our generation that are vying for control of the levers of government and Israel is a mirror of the big dichotomy of what’s going on in the world, Europe, and the United States. And for that reason, Israel is an important subject right now. Indeed, we’ll be right back.
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Lance: Alright, so Barry let’s go back to this and before we drop this subject because it’s very important. I believe the globalists are the, I’m talking about the World Economic Forum guys. I think there’s more meddling going on in Israel. From foreign nations and as you’ll point out the financial institutions and the news media are all putting pressure to manipulate Israeli public opinion. The average person doesn’t know how that works. Explain what’s going on.
Barry Siegel: So, it’s just been released this week. In fact, that Moody’s which is of course the ones who give the credit ratings for the countries and Israel has had like one of the best credit ratings in the entire world like A+ for years. but now they’re warning people about investing in Israel and also warning Israel itself manipulating I would say. Concerning its credit rating based on the uncertainty of Israel’s future and economic policies as a result of the judicial reform and the present Netanyahu led government which is scary in itself. Then Morgan Stanley came out and also said that they’re not advising people or companies, corporations, of course, to invest in Israel at this time because of the uncertainty of Israel at this time. And that’s another way that the globalists seek to manipulate this country. But I have to add to this also the backside of this is what do our enemies say across our borders in Lebanon and Iran for example.
The Islamic Jihad which is a terrorist organization in Gaza Strip said, “we must use this crisis in Israel for war against it. It’s a historic opportunity of crisis in Israel for war against the Jewish state”. Iran is gloating the foreign minister saying, Christ at the heart of the Zionist regime is deeper than the crisis in the prime minister’s heart. Because recently he had a pacemaker put into his heart in the midst of all this stress and that reminds me of Nehemiah chapter 4 in Sanballat, you know as the Jewish people were being restored and the walls of Jerusalem were being restored. And then in Lebanon of course we have Nasrallah saying, today meaning yesterday is the darkest day in the history of Israel because of course he’s taking pleasure in the protest in Israel following the approval of the law reducing the use of reasonableness standard as if they are democracies themselves. Which is a joke in itself that Iran, Lebanon, and the Gaza Strip is gloating over Israel’s quote unquote to their minds demise when they have no democracies whatsoever. So that’s kind of it shows you the globalist side of it through the credit rating agencies and it shows you the Islamic jihadist enemies of Israel.
Lance: And they’re both important roles to play. I want to segue into how this connects into the United States right now, as we only have a few minutes left in this program’s going so fast. Donald Trump does an interview Barry and he did it on the Simon Conway show recently. And he was asked about the what would happen if about his supporter’s reaction if the 45th president was behind bars at the hands of the left’s politically motivated scheme sparked by Special Counsel Darth Vader Jack Smith. Trump said, I think it’s very dangerous. It’s a dangerous to even talk about, because we have passionately tremendously passionate group of voters which are more passion than they had in 2020, much more passion than in 2016 and I think it would be very dangerous.
Now what he’s saying is that the Democrat prosecutors are going to be trying to tie Trump into January 6. That they can’t but they’re going to try to and they’re going to try to make the narrative Berry because it’s a demonic that Trump led a violent right wing white nationalist extremist movement. Now that kind of propaganda is very dangerous because what will happen is if they lock Trump up then the frustrated people who have seen Hunter Biden with cocaine in the White House, they’ve seen $17 million dollars’ worth of money coming to the Biden family. Got 17 voicemails none of this stuff is being argued about and denied. You know that Biden is corrupt as sin and that’s why they tried to impeach Trump because he said check out what Biden and Hunter were doing.
So, if they proceed to lock up Trump, they’re doing it in order to create an incitement to violence so that they can then brand Trump and the right wing as the dangerous extremists of January 6th and potentially begin the narrative of these are the domestic terrorists that are the threat to democracy which I think will explode on them in the next cycle. Because it’s almost like over provoking people into an awakening. But are you aware of these developments? What are your thoughts?
Barry Siegel: Yes, I am somewhat aware of the developments that I’ve been following and I just it blows me away how Hunter Biden has been able to continue without being behind bars let alone President Joe Biden has yet to be impeached as its proposed right now. These are crimes worse than whatever happened to Watergate. It makes Watergate look like a water pistol. I mean, it’s crazy and so I think from us from afar, it’s amazing to see from Israel to the United States how far the US has declined in terms of the situation and not only in the economy but in the morals and the ethics of the country. That’s my viewpoint anyways. I think they’re going to do all they can do to bring Trump down because his popularity has increased so much that he is without a doubt the front leader for being re-elected on behalf of the Republican Party as the next president of the United States.
So, I think that they are committed to bringing him down no matter what the cost and no matter what they do. And I said this to my wife at the inauguration of Donald Trump in 2016. I turned to her and I said, “From this day forward they’re going to fight this man 24/7 to make sure he does not succeed”. And I believe that’s come true in every aspect. So yes, I think this is very concerning and I just wanted to say, I think it’s also interesting that I do think there are globalist policies fueling these frictions and fueling towards anarchy no less so than the UN I believe would love to continue seeing the Jewish People and Palestinian Arabs at each other in Jerusalem so that the UN can declare Jerusalem an international city. And that’s another subject for another time. But this is something that is definitely has been a vision of the UN for years. That Jerusalem does not belong to the Jews nor the Arabs but belongs to the global list community.
Lance: And this goes to something tying it all back in our last two with the subject of Israel. As I think about it Barry, you know David Ben-Gurion and the founders of Israel, when they began,they came in Ben-Gurion came in as a socialist, the Kibbutz idea is very communistic. But he gradually realized that prosperity was going to be an enterprise and the innovation of the Jewish people and it has been it’s been the capitalism has been the gift to them and their inventiveness and creativity. But there was an absence of religious sentiment in the founders of Israel. I think that this all goes into the alchemy of what you’ve got now some 80 years later, because the religious community actually is at odds with the globalist community but the Ben-Gurion was a nationalist.
I think that this the salvation of Israel is that at the core whether they are religious or atheists.The majority of the Israeli community apart from their elites that are trained by the west. The rank and file actually believe in Israel’s sovereignty and necessity as a nation and I believe that that nationalism is the antidote to the beast. We call it globalism and it sounds like a word like an economist would use. Let’s call it what it is. It’s the spirit of empire. It’s the spirit of one world government. It’s the spirit of the beast that wants centralized power so that it can rule over the masses. And I believe Israel knows its survival is based on being a nation that cannot count on the UN, which would even approve the embassy move. They cannot count on the global community. They court their approval. They long for their approval, but at the end of the day Israel knows it stands alone against the world and the United States has to be very careful.Because the Marxist takeover in this country can cause a division even in our policies with Israel. We’re going to be back again next week. Thank you, Barry.
Barry Siegel: Thank you.
Lance: And thanks to the team here with Sid Roth. This is Prophetic Convergence.,
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