Inside the Christian Embassy: Exclusive Insights

Lance: Greetings, this is Lance Wallnau. Welcome to the Lance Wallnau Show. Every time I go to Israel and I go a lot, I will be there two times this year. I’m going back in September. I’ll let you know if any of you want to meet me in Israel. We can kind of go together if you like. I’m going to be during the feast days. Passover Pentecost Tabernacle. I’ll be Tabernacles then. Feast of trumpets etcetera and I’m going to now start to add the embassy. Did you know we have a Christian embassy in Jerusalem? For years, I’ve been hearing about it but I finally met Doctor Jurgen Bueller who is the head his office is really is the ambassador of the Christian Embassy in Jerusalem. Make sense Christians should have an embassy there. So, he’s been there and he’s be very big on teaching on the Feast of Tabernacles which is the feast what are coming into in September. He talks about what does an embassy do, because an embassy is an authorized governmental representative of a foreign body. What country is being presented by the Christian Embassy, the global body of Christ. Powerful idea and Netanyahu, I’ve seen him actually greetings to our friends at the Christian Embassy in Jerusalem. They acknowledge it. They actually treat it like it’s the real deal. I guess it’s because it is a real deal.

So, Jurgen Bueller is the ambassador of the Christian Embassy. I would love to be an ambassador. I think it has a great sound to it, doesn’t it? Ambassador. So, this guy is an ambassador and by the way, going to be doing something really cool in about a week. We’re taking off for our Dream Trip and I’ve been meditating upon what we’re going to do. The Lordtold me the theme for this year’s Dream Trip which is like a next week, 2 weeks, is leading from the emerging future. Leading from the emerging future and I’m grateful that this concept was introduced to me by my friend Mark Sharona under the concept of what’s called Theory U. It has to do how to go down in humility in order to catch up to what wants to show up. How to let go the things that are causing you anxiety and fear and hurt in order to let come thy kingdom. The kingdom wants to come but if the kingdom comes, something must go.

I’m going to share with you about 6 keys the Lord‘s given to me about how to make it through the chaos of what’s coming. I’m serious about this. Stuff folks. I just got a text given to me that they they’re friends of mine that are in the know. They really believe that Donald Trump could be arrested. I’m not saying it’s going to happen but I was going to tell you that they’re serious. They’re well informed. They believe that there’s deals being broken right now in order to set Donald Trump up for a criminal charge regarding his handling of papers. Then they’re going to follow with election interference in Georgia. The devil fears this guy and the left hates him so much and I’m going to tell you this right now. Leading from an emerging future means you have to be able to deal with the devil, not get sucked into these peripheral warfare issues. Because hitting the death star right where it hurts the devil the most is what you’re going to do when you obey the call of God.

I’m going to show you how to not let these things that are happening distract you from delivering the most powerful blow possible. Go to “Lancewallnau.com/DreamTrip” and I’m going to plug you in by remote camera to everything we’re going to be doing in our sessions about leading from the emerging future. Being caught up in what wants to show up and not allowing the devil to cause you to throw up because it’s time that you grow up so that you can go up. “Lancewallnau.com/DreamTrip”. Get the link. Get the Lance a lot link. So, you don’t sink. And let’s go down here with Doctor Jorgen Bueller, the Ambassador of the Christian Embassy in Jerusalem. Here we go.

Welcome, welcome to today’s show and listen, we have a very special guest right now. I want you to meet your Bueller. I’ve heard about this man from I think the different friends of mine and then when I’m speaking in Jerusalem, I always hear about activity over at the Christian Embassy.I’m a little jealous of going, huh, what is this Christian Embassy. So, now I finally hear at the NRB, I’ve cornered the guy who is the ambassador of the Christian Embassy. Jorgen Bueller thank you for joining us. I snagged him as he walked through. Thanks for being so spontaneous.

Jurgen Bueller: Oh, Lance thank you much. It’s a huge honor to be on your program.

Lance: Alright, now tell us how did this happen? I don’t understand how you have a Christian embassy in Jerusalem. How does it go on?

Jurgen Bueller: Well, it started in 1980. There was a law being passed by the Israeli which was called the Jerusalem law and it basically said that Jerusalem is the eternal undivided capital of the state of Israel and most countries didn’t care much. You know, that a lot of countries they decide what they want to have as capital. But within 2 days there was an emergency meeting of the Arab League and they said every nation that keeps their embassy or moves their embassy to Jerusalem recognizing that as the capital of the State of Israel, we are cutting off the oil supply. That was a real threat because in the 70s you might remember there was an oil crisis because of Israel. There were 14 embassies in Jerusalem. Some of them Christian countries with a big cross upon their flags and they all closed their doors, moved down to Tel Aviv and for almost 40 years, there was no physical representation of any nation.

Now, what happened in that same year, there was a Canadian couple. You might remember them Mervin Merola Watson, and they had a vision. They were having a revival of Jesus people movement in Ontario, in Canada. And the Lord spoke to them through Zechariah chapter 14 and where it says, “At the end of the nations will come up to Jerusalem and they will celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles”. So, in 1980 when all that happened, they celebrated the very first feast of tabernacles and you might know at that time nobody was doing that. That was unheard of that Christians are celebrating a Jewish feast. Today almost everybody is doing it.

Lance: Of course.

Jurgen Bueller: And there were people like Lance Lambert Derek Prince at that very first Feast of Tabernacles. A bible teacher called David Parson Yan Will and Vanderhoven. And they said, when all the embassies are leaving, we are called as Christians now to open an international Christian embassy Jerusalem to show the State of Israel that there are Bible-believing Christians around the world who believe in the promises of God and God‘s purpose for the city of Jerusalem.

Lance: So now you have, now how did you get involved? Because this is 1980 and then you’re a young guy and so what happened?

Jurgen Bueller: I came in 1994 to Israel as a student of physics. I did my PhD at the WhitemanInstitute of Science in Rehoboth. My father was a Pentecostal pastor and I always felt the Lordcalled me to ministry. And after my PhD, I found a voice of the Lord that now is the time to enter into ministry. Somebody told me, why don’t you apply with the Christian Embassy and I started as a volunteer translating into German. Then I became the director of the German branch and then the international director and now I have the privilege to serve as the president of the ICJ.

Lance: And now I’ve seen BB Netanyahu if I remember correctly, he’s recognized the embassy as a legitimate focal point for what? International relations or how does this work? What is an embassy, anyway?

Jurgen Bueller: We are representing believers. We have branches in more than 99 zero countries around the world and our Prayer Movement I think I believe we reach around 140 countries. That means we are in a way representing global evangelical Christianity towards the state of Israel and we have extreme good connections with the president of Israel with the IsraeliKnesset, the prime minister was quite a number of times at the Feast of Tabernacles and they recognize. It’s amazing Benjamin Netanyahu, I think I heard him 5, 6 times he says today our strongest allies that we have around the world are evangelical believers. And you have to think about that after all that what Christians did to the Jewish people. The Holocaust, the inquisition and all that, that’s nothing short in a miracle.

Lance: That really is but it’s so important that that BB actually recognizes it. Not every Jewish person recognizes it because it depends on what kind of narrative they’ve got. Can you explain to me without getting in trouble? Liberal Jews in the United States that don’t support Israel. Explain to me the psychosis here. They’re Jewish people. They owe something to Israel and the signing with boycotting Israel. What is this all about? I don’t want to put you in the spot. Let me just go right for these questions. I only got 10 minutes with you. I want to figure it out.

Jurgen Bueller: Honestly, I sometimes struggle also to figure it out. They go on Saturday to they’ll soon read all the passages about [INAUDIBLE WORD 9:50] Israel. And I think in a way they might justify the reason why they still stay in America. And honestly you know America is the largest Jewish population in the whole world. And if I understand my Bible correctly the Word of God says that Jews will come back from all the four corners.

Lance: What percentage of Jew do you have to be to go back, anyway? I mean a little worried about this because I just had a guy doing a DNA test before you got here. And is it 50% Jew? Is that when do you, what level do you do Aliyah, your mother, your father?

Jurgen Bueller: The state of Israel defines it according to the chief revenant. The chief revenant defines if you are Jewish or not. It doesn’t have anything to do with your DNA.

Lance: What?

Jurgen Bueller: And it has to do with if you have a Jewish model or grandmother. If you were raised Jewish and that’s one of the challenges also of course for the messianic community in Israel. Some of the rabbi said, well, if you stop believing in Jesus you stop being Jewish. And so,there are some interesting ways how they define it. By the matter of fact is that Jews keep coming back to Israel. Last year we had because of the Ukrainian crisis a record number of Jews return back to their homelands.

Lance: I had a lot of Russian Jews coming in. I mean, because I’ve helped pay for them. I mean, someone took an offering once and the Lord makes me give hundreds of dollars to help Russian Jews go to Israel.

Jurgen Bueller: Absolutely, we helped the Christian Embassy over the last 30 years. We helped approximately 170,000 Jews to make Aliyah. Most of them from Russia, our former Soviet Union.

Lance: Yeah, that’s what I’m helping you then. That’s what it is.

Jurgen Bueller: Exactly, and Ethiopia last week, we had a plane landing with 250 Ethiopian Jews. It’s amazing what happening now.

Lance: I love that. Ethiopia, is like Ethiopian Jews. Alright, so what is the top three priorities of the embassy right now? So, we all want to work with you. We’re all connected. We’re I find out you got Derek Prince in background. You find out I’m Jewish in my background. We have a lot in common. How can, what are your priorities?

Jurgen Bueller: Well, number one, of course, we do the Feast of Tabernacles every year and we want to invite everybody to come and celebrate that it’s a prophetic feast. Zechariah speaks about the end of days that the nations will come and worship in Jerusalem. So, by doing that, you are fulfilling biblical prophecies. Second, we work with Aliyah just as I said, we help Jewish people returning back to their land. Thirdly, and this is absolutely important and current right now. You heard 2 weeks ago, we had 140 missiles coming down on Israel. No, excuse me. 1,400 missiles.

Lance: What?

Jurgen Bueller: Reigning down on Israel for on from Gaza Strip.

Lance: What in the world?

Jurgen Bueller: And if you are living on Gaza, Israel withdrew. They said, we want to have peace with the Palestinian people. They completely withdrew from Gaza. They gave it over to them. The reaction was this was 10 years ago within the next two weeks, 10,000 missiles were filed on Islam and this happens every single year maybe 2 or 3 times.

Lance: What the heck?

Jurgen Bueller: And if you are living around the Gaza envelope. I would like to take you there. If you are there and those missiles are being shut, you have 10 seconds to run to the next bombshell. Because that’s the time a missile takes until it lands. That means those people who live there, they need bombshells and kindergartens and bus stops and supermarkets.

Lance: What kind of a lifestyle is that? That’s crazy. Although, I have to say I got an apartment. I was looking at an apartment. Heidi Baker and I are both looking at the same apartment in Jerusalem and it’s hilarious. Because I mean they have a bombshell in every house and they say,this is the living room and over here is the den and by the way the bomb shelters over here.

Jurgen Bueller: Exactly.

Lance: Like, wait a second the bomb shelter oh you have a couple of seconds to get in it.

Jurgen Bueller: No, but let me tell you the Israelis and that shows you the surviving spirit of the Jewish people.

Lance: That’s good. That’s true.

Jurgen Bueller: They are, last week when we had those missiles going on, if you would have been at the beach of Tel Aviv it was packed with people. They don’t stop going to shopping.

Lance: That’s right, they don’t up.

Jurgen Bueller: Exactly.

Lance: They continue on with the beach party and running us over.

Jurgen Bueller: And so, what we are doing? We are building those bombshells and let me tell you a story. I was speaking at a conference in Europe and I saw my cellphone was ringing an Israeli number. I picked it up and I says, do I speak with [INAUDIBLE 14:20]. Say, yeah that’s me. Says I’m Shy Helmish. I’m a member of the Israeli Knesset you just saved my life. And he said, how that I’m in Germany right now speaking about Israel. He says, I’m living in[INAUDIBLE WORD 14:34] that’s just at the border of the Gaza Strip. We had a red alert. I was running to the next bombshell or the bombshell took a direct hit and I saw inside in that bombshell there was a sign donated by the International Christian Embassy. Jorgen saved my life and we are friends until today and those things, they are changing the minds of Jewish people about Christians. They saw so much in the past and in a way, they see a new face of Jesus and Christianity through our ministry.

Lance: I love it. Well, all I could tell you is when I was in my 20s and a man comes up to me at a full gospel business meeting back when Derek Prince was around.

Jurgen Bueller: Dema Shakarian.

Lance: Dema Shakarian, exactly and I’m going to the full gospel and the guy comes down and goes, God‘s going to use you to reach your people. I go, Episcopalians and he says, no, Jews, I never forgot God‘s going to use me to reach his people and I was so how am I going to reach your people? I didn’t do a DNA test like that. I found out I’ve Ashkenazi Jew in my background. But I’m committed to helping the Jewish people. But what makes me nervous is if the Jewish people are going to be returning to the land of Israel. And the United States has the highest concentration of Jewish people. If it isn’t people don’t go to Israel because they want to fulfill a prophetic mandate. It’s possible that persecution also is used as a tool in history. Israel’s formed basically out of an exasperation with Europe’s not protecting the Jew. So, isn’t it possible that we’re going to find a period of antisemitism possible? Is that the only what do you think? I remember Derek talking about this.

Jurgen Bueller: Honestly, I believe that’s the only way how they are leaving. We were just last week in Florida and to be honest, it feels like the promised land. Why do you want to leave this amazing?

Lance: Yeah, if I’m in Boca Raton and I got a beach property, why am I going to go to Israel with the bombs bursting in air? Anyway, but I can see maybe God has a plan in the middle of a plan.

Jurgen Bueller: And some of those crazy times your nation is going through right now might actually be part of God dealing with the Jewish people to bring them back to their homeland.

Lance: I love it and I think we’ll we’re going to see how we can work together on that. Tell the people how to get in touch with you and how going to keep up with the embassy.

Jurgen Bueller: We have a web page. It’s called ICEJ. International Christian Embassy Jerusalem “ICEJ.org”. And then if you are from the United States, it ask you which country you are from, you can put on the US or whatever nation you are joining and then you can connect with our ministry.

Lance: Alright, folks. You heard it there. It’s IC.

Jurgen Bueller: ICEJ.

Lance: EJ.

Jurgen Bueller: Yes.

Lance: ICEJ. And so, I want you to go there. I’m going to go there. Let’s connect together. When I go down, you can go down. We can all go together. We can go meet in Jerusalem.

Jurgen Bueller: At the Feast of Tabernacle.

Lance: At the Feast of Tabernacle. A perfect time. God bless you. Thank you, my brother.

Jurgen Bueller: God bless you. Thanks so much.

Lance: Alright. And we’ll be right back.

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Lance: Welcome back. That was a powerful interview with Jorgen and the embassy in Jerusalem but now we have a different kind of embassy. It’s the embassy of the legal mountain in the United States. One of the great men that is stood before the Supreme Court and argued to protect you his whole life is Michael Farris. He also curiously enough I saw him on a Dennis Prager video. He also started a college like Patrick Henry College or something. The guy is amazing. It’s like legendary. Well, I grabbed him for a quick interview because I wanted you to hear what he’s talking about in terms of California laws that are trying to pressure social media companies into monitoring you for hate speech.

Now, what does that sound like? He feels that the biggest battles are going to be coming in Christian speech and it’s going to be religious liberty and broadcasting just like this. So, I want you to hear what Mike Ferris has to say he’s an important man kingdom statesman and you’re going to get some insight out of this. Enjoy.

Lance: Folks there’s nothing more important than the freedoms you have and that’s what’s under attack. In fact, when I’m looking at all 7 domains from academic to could be medical or media or government or business. Freedom is the one thing that I’m the most concerned about protecting. We have a man here who is not only a friend of mine but one of the foremost authorities on protecting religious freedoms and freedom of speech in the United States. As an attorney, he’s been involved with like 10 cases that have been definitive in terms of what the court has decided 1/9 of them argued too personally and his name is Mike Ferris. Mike thank you for making your time available and you’re also you’re working on some cases. Now here’s the gap that I found with my friends. There’s so much that is being accomplished in the legal area that the church is all discouraged about all these fronts. But I’m convinced it’s terrible PR on our part we’re not communicating the victories we have.

Mike Ferris: That’s right.

Lance: Because we have and I don’t know if you read Gorsuch’s writing this week on his astonishment in a sense. This is an eye opener. This is Supreme Court Justice saying how much federal government overreach took place and how willing the American people were to comply with it during the whole COVID period. And it’s a wakeup call. It’s saying hey guys you better be vigilant about protecting your freedoms and not just compliant. So, give us, talk to me about this subject and also about the Dobbs case because I don’t think we understand it.

Mike Ferris: Well, first of all, it’s great to be with you again. We remember our time in Israel together. It was great.

Lance: Yeah.

Mike Ferris: And so, the Supreme Court’s has improved tremendously because of the Trump appointees. There’s no doubt about that, but the general trajectory is that there’s a shadow of totalitarianism descending on our country. But we’re fighting back and we’re winning a lot of the cases. Alliance defending freedom that I was the CEO of for 6 years. I still part time as an advisor to them. Won the Jack Phillips case, the Masterpiece Cake Shop case in the Supreme Court that we just argued the 303 Creative Case in December which is going to decide once and for all when there’s a clash between religious freedom and freedom of speech and state gay riots laws on the other hand which prevails.

Now, the answer should be article 6 of the constitution says, “The constitution is the supreme law of the land”. So, gay rights come from state statutes. The First Amendment is the Supreme Law of the Land that should be a straight forward victory. I think we are going to win. I don’t know that for certain obviously, but within the next month we’ll get the decision. I’m expecting a good win on that and setting the record straight on an important component of freedom of speech. The case I most recently argued in the Supreme Court was in 2018 where the state of California tried to force pro-life pregnancy centers to deliver a pro-abortion message. They wanted them to say you can get an 800 number here and call the state of California and get a free abortion. Well, of course the pregnancy centers were not going to do that. It was a pretense to get them to shut down but they weren’t going to shut down.

Lance: You can do that in reverse and say if you’re conflicted about having an abortion, here’s somebody who wants to talk to you about the joys of having a child.

Mike Ferris: Yeah, try getting that through the California legislature. But I argued that case in the Supreme Court and by a 5-4 majority the court ruled that California was violating the free speech rights of these pregnancy centers. So, we are winning cases. There is ground. This is an opportunity and a good time to be fighting back, but the other side is not giving up in the slightest and they’re going after all of us collectively through another California law that’s been passed in the last several weeks that requires social media companies to keep track of every incident involving what they call hate speech racism, extremism, radicalization, misinformation,disinformation all of those things including them some things that are despicable to me like racism, all of those are protected speech. So, there’s a $15,000 fine per incident if these social media companies don’t deal with these things correctly and all those terms are defined not in the statute but in day-to-day basis by the Attorney General of California. So, guess what? They’re there to censor conservative voices.

Lance: Oh, sure because hate speech is if you’re against what they speech.

Mike Ferris: That’s exactly right. The T shirt that says there are two genders that’s hate speech. And so, we national religious broadcasters, I’m representing them in that case has intervened in the case along with a couple of others including the Babylon B which is just a terrific organization. And we’re fighting for free speech in California in the federal courts where it’s just at the very beginning.

Lance: Has Babylon B involved with litigation over something? Is this it? I mean I read about a court case with Babylon B and I thought what in the world?

Mike Ferris: Yeah, this is it. This is the case.

Lance: Okay.

Mike Ferris: And so, we are joining together to fight for freedom of speech. So, we’re representing the members of national religious broadcasters in that capacity.

Lance: Oh wow. So, this thing about social media it’s a double-edged sword, isn’t it? Because sometimes what are you tracking with Mike Davis in the Article three movement at all?

Mike Ferris: A little bit.

Lance: Okay, because he’s really talking about breaking up. He’s going for, he’s a formidable guy. He’s thinking about breaking up the monopoly.

Mike Ferris: Yeah.

Lance: Like Google has a search engine monopoly and of course that could excuse any election because when you’re going to look up a candidate you got nine articles against them that’s a form of manipulating information.

Mike Ferris: Right exactly.

Lance: So, he’s saying these are dangerous ideological corporations that are controlling communication now. But the case, what is the ideal case you think we can win now? Because we do have this moment when we have justices that are actually ruling for freedom of speech.

Mike Ferris: Well, the problem with the internet service providers that I’m most concerned about is their manipulation of the process to silence Christian and conservative voices. The section 230 of the Communications Act really is the key to getting that right, because the basics of that law is Facebook is a publisher under normal terms. If you buy an ad in the New York Times and it’s defamatory, then you’re responsible and the New York Times is responsible because they published it. Even it’s your ad the New York Times. Facebook doesn’t have to follow that rule. If somebody says something defamatory about me on Facebook. I can sue that individual but I can’t sue Facebook under the section 230 of the Communications Act. But that’s conditioned on one really important fact and that is they’re not exercising editorial control over the site. And they’ve promised the whole world we’re not biased against conservatives, we’re not biased against Christians. The truth is their algorithms are written specifically to suppress the message.

Lance: Tell me about it I know it.

Mike Ferris: Yeah.

Lance: I mean and so how can I have a million 1.5 followers/subscribers and I have 6,000 people looking at my content.

Mike Ferris: Yeah, exactly. It’s I have that same problem at a diminished capacity I have 40,000 followers and 4,000, 5,000 people see who I want to post and so they’re exercising editorial control and so they should not get the protection of section 230. They have to decide do you want to control or do you want to make it be a free forum and if we get section 230 correct, that’s the quickest easiest path. There are other paths to do it.

Lance: Is there a danger there if that section 230 passes. I heard Ben Shapiro make the argument he said he really doesn’t want that because if they have any responsibility, he doesn’t want them to have responsibility for editorial content because they can work against us too. It could be like hey we can get sued if we publish that.

Mike Ferris: Well exactly but there’s a difference between a social media platform and Ben Shapiro’s own website. He’s not subject to these rules.

Lance: Right.

Mike Ferris: And Ben’s not going to put something on his website that he doesn’t agree with.

Lance: Right.

Mike Ferris: And so ADF’s not put something on it but you’re not the same thing. But these are they’re claiming to be neutral platforms. The consumer protection laws might also get involved here. They make a common a promise to consumers and make no mistake we are the product they’re selling.

Lance: Sure.

Mike Ferris: The data they collect about us they’re selling to people and so if you bring me in under the pretense that you’re neutral and even handed and you don’t do that the state consumer protection laws could be invoked as well. So, there’s a variety of ways that we can go, but they’re effectively public utilities it’s like the phone company shutting off your phone.

Lance: That’s right bell telephones.

Mike Ferris: Right.

Lance: Do you really think Mike, do you think it’s possible we can see that. What’s the most optimistic result that we can have in your opinion?

Mike Ferris: If we have a good election in 2024, it’s going to happen.

Lance: Come on, you guys hear that. That’s the kind of optimism I like to hear.

Mike Ferris: Yeah.

Lance: Going to happen.

Mike Ferris: So, I mean the laws are already written correctly we just got to have a way to interpret it correctly by the Supreme Court. So, it’s possible that this can be won just at the Supreme Court level but it’s certainly can be won with a combination of a good congress and a good president.

Lance: So, are you, tell me about your people communicating with you? Because I want everyone to listen to what you have to say. Do you do a regular analysis of what the court cases are so that folks like us can understand them and break them down?

Mike Ferris: Alliance Defending Freedom does.

Lance: They’re continuing to do that.

Mike Ferris: Yeah, that’s right. So, “ADFLegal.org” is the website and you can get there and there’s regular information about cases at a lot of levels not just the Supreme Court but important federal court cases, state Supreme Court cases and the like.

Lance: And if people want to get in touch with you and I’m not obligating you to have to answer all of them but if they want to get in touch with you or follow you, what do they do?

Mike Ferris: Well, on Facebook, it’s Michael Ferris MICHAELFARRIS. I have a pretty big filing and I post there regularly and I answer people’s questions.

Lance: Oh, good.

Mike Ferris: But they can also contact me through NRB. I’m their general council and NRB’s website is “NRB.org”.

Lance: What’s the biggest battle you see coming for religious and Christian broadcasters such as myself. What do you think?

Mike Ferris: Well, I think it’s the effort of the woke corporate structure to de–platform people like you and me and that’s the battle. Banks are going to try to come after us. Insurance companies are coming after us. Social networks will come after us. Salesforce is going to take people down that use their services for.

Lance: I’m going to delete the app when I get, I’m going to do it today. So. I’m mad at them right now.

Mike Ferris: Yeah. So, these people are after people like you and me and we have to find alternatives and we have to fight back every chance we can.

Lance: Alright. Well, there you have it people. That’s one of my favorite guys with a favorite update, Mike Ferris and pray for him. Pray for the front line because I’m telling you, the Christian attorneys are the front line. There ain’t many of them that are willing to go take their values into the arena and fight for the freedom. We got to pray for them, because I’m always amazing when Trump was trying to find lawyers that law firms would be backing up from him because of the consequences of taking him as a client. Can you imagine that in a court you have this crazy criminal and everybody knows he’s a court appointed defense attorneys going to try to represent him. You have a president of the United States had a problem getting a law firm to represent him because of what?

Mike Ferris: Because the big corporations where they make their living on a regular basis told them if you represent Donald Trump, you lose our business. It was corporate back blackmail.

Lance: Well, I say we have corporate backlash if only we had a Populous Movement. If we had a movement of a couple of million people that would move a precision and intensity on one single target at a time not everything. My problem with the culture of cancel for on our side is if it’s not Walmart it’s you only got two places to go. This week it’s Target. So okay, I’ll go back to Walmart but I was boycotting Walmart until Target got me upset, we got to pick one at a time like Alinsky said, Pick the Target, freeze the Target. We have to because we’re trying to send a message to corporate America like the Bud Light Moment. You got to stop, get out of politics. Stay out of the business of what, of religion and politics. I think my parents should say, don’t discuss religion and politics at the table and that’s why I’m in the religion and politics broadcasting business. I couldn’t talk about it at home. Mike, thanks for being with us today.

Mike Ferris: God bless you, Lance. I appreciate all you do.

Lance: Let’s stay in touch.

Mike Ferris: Alright.

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