Lance and Hank Kunneman peer into the future and compare notes

Lance: Hey, this is the Lance Wallnau Show. Welcome to this live special edition at Mike Lindell’s Super Truth Summit. It’s actually Moment of True Summit here in Springfield, Missouri. Just about two hours away from where Churchill delivered his historic message on the dropping of the iron curtain. We’re really believing that there’s going to be a supernatural anointing on this broadcast to help you pick up the energy of this movement of God that’s happening in the country. We’ve got so many cool speakers. One of my favorites is coming up right now, a guy that I work with on Flashpoint all the time and its Hank Kuneman. He’ll love this. Let’s go into that interview with Hank. 

Well, listen everybody it’s been such an experience here with Mike Lindell and I get to talk to Mike off camera here. I wish I could get him on the camera. We’re going to try to get him here tomorrow. That guy I don’t care if he’s got one or two people it’s like Jesus on the road to Emmaus. We’re just two people he gives you the whole history or something I love it. But anyway, so my special guest is my friend prophet, pastor Hank Kuneman. And this might be the first time we’ve actually done an interview together when we’re not both a guest on something.

Hank: It’s an honor to be here by the way I hear you singing in my ear. Can you hear me singing?

Lance: This is something you know because there’s so much noise in the background. I did an interview with Bannon earlier today without headphones. And I didn’t know what he was asking me.

Hank: Oh no.

Lance: So, I heard like I leaned in and got one or two words and just answered whatever I thought he said. So, at the end it’ll be easier this way. Hank tell everybody of course we’re here because Mike Lindell is making a statement in the Moment of True Summit. There is such a such a vast amount of information regarding election theft and he’s a Christian and he’s approaching this as a believer as a man of God. So, here’s a marketplace guy putting everything on the table to say if we don’t stop this machine manipulation of the American vote, a game is getting rigged that will take from us our future. Because we’re no longer living in a normal America. Living in America where they could quarantine you, lock you down, vax you. This is a this is a dystopian, brutal, totalitarian impulse. That’s only being restrained by a few liberties we’ve got to hold it back. And one of them is the right of the people to be informed and say no.

Hank: It’s true.

Lance: But so, we still have, it’s going to be up to us. Because he said he’s concerned that there’s not enough echo chamber outside of our echo chamber. That if we’re just talking to us, we’re already open to that. We have got to persuade the people that aren’t hearing the conversation because the devil’s strategy is lamproite it, mock it, or shut it down.

Hank: Yeah.

Lance: So, no one hears anything. So, what are your thoughts on what you’re observing here so far?

Hank: One of the things Lansing thank you for having me. As I’m looking at things that are happening right now in the nation. I sense very strongly that there is a shift that is happening. Now people are looking for all these outward shifts. But I really believe that a shift that has to happen is in people’s mindsets. Think about what happened with the scandemic, the pandemic, all of the things that we face in the harshness of the season that we’ve all been in. Where people have had to come to a certain point of what they believe or what they will believe and what is the truth. And I think what we have to understand is the spirit of truth.

The spirit of God himself is really pushing hard for truth to come out in regards to a lot of things that have been done to the lord’s people but also to this nation and the nations of the world. I think we’re at a moment like in first Samuel 17 where there was a heated moment in a nation of great battle. Here you had the Philistines. You had Goliath out there and he was ranting, raving. There was great fear that gripped one of the most powerful militaries at the time Israel, King Saul, they’re all in their tents, even the scribes which represent the media at that time. They’re all in tent and they’re afraid to do anything. David comes up just like I believe that, this is what Micas is doing and what you’ve been saying for many times on Flashpoint even on your own platforms. That this is about we the people. This is a populous movement that’s arising that we now have to come to truth know the truth, that’s going to ultimately set us free. But really engage us in a battle that the enemy has really brought our country and the earth into.

So, David goes out to battle and I find it very interesting that the first thing that he has to face is what we’ve had to face right now in our country. And it’s this, a lie of his elder brother rises up and begins to be angry at a man who is about God and his country. If you think about it, David was a worshiper of God but loved his nation, loved his country enough to stand up and say, who is this uncircumcised Philistine? So, I feel like that’s where we’re at right now is we have either Christian brethren preachers, congressional members, or even fellow citizens that sometimes have an outrage or an anger of those who are wanting to engage themselves in the battle to fight for the future of our nation.

I think meetings like this, what you’re doing Lance and even Flashpoint is really to engage us like David to get up, rise up, do something, engage the battle, make a difference, and don’t get caught up in the heated anger that’s out there right now in the culture. That really is trying to neutralize us and paralyze us from doing anything to take back our freedoms.

Lance: So, I love what you’re saying Hank. I love what you’re saying. So, the David in your scenario. Does that David represent the populist movement under the impulse of God?

Hank: Yes.

Lance: It’s not Donald Trump. Just want to make sure the metaphors.

Hank: Because he said is there not a cause and that was one of the things that motivated into a place of action is look there’s a cause. We’ve had our freedom stolen from us. We’ve been pushed around, shoved around, even the thing that happened with the president for example. Not only was the White House raided, our government raided but when his house was raided. I thought about this, I thought God, what does that represent? And I believe what it represents is what you said that’s at risk is we, the people. If they can go in and raid a president’s home, what does that mean for us, the people. What level that they can go to.

So, I believe that God is calling us to stand up like David, a Davidic people so to speak, the populist movement. They’re going to recognize there’s a cause and not be moved by the anger or others that would just assume that we just shut up about our country, shut up about God being involved in in politics of the country. But really stand up and begin to say you know what, we have God‘s backing. Now is the time like never before to take back what the enemy is trying to steal from us. I think if we will continue to engage in that, we’re going to see that there is an anointing that backs us in what we’re doing.

Lance: So, tell me about the anointing that people need to plug into. What is that and talk for people that don’t understand what the anointing is. What are we talking about?

Hank: Okay, for example, a lot of people even talk about President Trump for example.President Trump is really he’s effective but he’s only effective if there is a certain anointing that you wrote a book about that so marvelous about that Cyrus anointing. When God puts an anointing on you, it’s a job description. It’s God on human flesh doing what human flesh can’t do of itself and so it’s a very powerful thing that happens when there is an anointing but here’s what I want to bring people back to. So, it was right before August 16th of 2020 that I was working on my trains, Lance. I love HO trains and I was in my train room and I felt the atmosphere shift and I fell the lord walked in. Well, he did. I didn’t see him but I felt him and I heard his voice and fear gripped my heart in a good way and he said to me, it shocked me.

He said, may I speak to you, and I’m thinking this is God of heaven. He doesn’t need my permission to speak to me and I fell to the ground. I said, ‘Lord, your servant hears and he said to me.’ He said, hey, he said, they’re going to steal the election. They’re going to delay it through a chaotic plan thing.’ And then the Lord later prophesied that publicly. And he said, ‘But do you think they’re going to steal my nation from me, and he said they won’t because I dedicated this election, he said to the honor of my son and the harvest that he deserves.’ That’s why I appreciate what you and Mario doing. You guys are out there making it also not only about the nation but about souls and changing the hearts of men that ultimately transfer into changing communities and regions and territories.

Lance: I love what you’re saying here. Let me ask you this. When you are speaking tomorrow?Because a lot of the folks won’t be able to hear that unless they’re actually watching live. Give a preview of what you wanted to give as a word to these people tomorrow.

Hank: Okay and I wanted to say.

Lance: Because we’re going to both be addressing them tomorrow.

Hank: Sure. I would love to say it. I want to just finish up with the part about the anointing very quickly. The anointing that the lord spoke to about when he came and spoke to me that day in that experience. He talked about an anointing of preservation. It’s in Luke 4 where Jesus announced that the spirit of the Lord is upon him and in no him. And then later on they tried to kill him but they couldn’t kill him because it was an anointing that preserved him up. Until the time of even the garden when he finally said, now is the time Peter put away your sword. And at that moment they were able to seize Jesus, but that anointing had preserved him.

Same way there’s an anointing on our nation and we need to continue to pray for that as we rise up like David’s. But tomorrow I’m going to talk about Judges 5 and I talk about how there are four specific things that I believe that God is saying that we need right now to our nation back and its things that you’ve been saying also. If you look at Judges 5, they were having war in the gates. Think about the cultural battles, think about the battles that are happening in the 7-Mountains right that you have stood for brilliantly. Then it says, they were choosing winding roads or side roads. So, they’re getting off of the main road like woke, all of that, getting us off of the main roads the main issues. And then it says this, until I Deborah arose as a mother in Israeli.Do you know there’s an intel moment coming? It’s where someone like Deborah who is a mother.She had to be a literal mother because I don’t think they would have given her a place of power being a barren woman. They kind of look down on that in culture.

So, I think she was a common person. We the people, the populist moment rising up with God‘s backing that until moment that began to shift things and shift the nation back to where they needed to be. And then it says that the governors began to arise, it’s what you said. Goat states, sheep states. I believe the governors are the future of our nation to really govern what are going to be sheep nations like you’ve prophesied, what are going to be goat nations. That’s why it’s important with the midterms. Getting the right governors, getting the right people in place because that like Judges 5 is going to shift the nation.

Another thing is judges are going to shift our nation. Deborah was ultimately a judge. Judges 4 says that. I think there’s victories coming in the courts. I think there’s things that are going to go to the courts that are going to ultimately write and adjust and align our nation. And then lastly,like I said it’s going to be Judges 5 2. Brave leaders, it says. When the leaders bravely led Judges 5 2, then the people willingly follow. So, he had brave leaders, common people, the mother,judges and governors. Then what happened is she went out to find people that would engage the battle with her and they went to the first try which represents where we’re at in our nation right now.

It was the tribe of Reuben and it says that Reuben had great thoughts of heart plans and indecision. It says, ‘But you abode Reuben among the sheepfolds and your shepherds were about the whistling of the flocks.’ In other words, they were playing church and not engaging in the battle. So, that’s what I’m going to talk about tomorrow and I’m ultimately going to say like what we’ve been discussing, is there not a cause to stand up and really begin to stand up with the anointing that God is releasing. That you released when you were in Omaha with us, when you said we are one. That was so powerful because it’s going to unify us in the spirit and ultimately manifest in the natural with an anointing to take our country back.

Lance: I believe what you’re saying is true and so profound. It’s all going to be very rich. We’ll see if we can get that message for the people. Both of us Sunday morning will be on tomorrow live. Those of you that are going to catch it where this is done next week, then I will have it available and I’ll just put it in the broadcast.

Hank: Thank you for doing that I really appreciate that.

Lance: Because people need to hear this. I think that in the midterm battle that’s coming up in these States, isn’t it interesting Hank that why you were talking. You’re saying that the judges will be significant, the governors will be significant. Because you’re saying that these are biblical kind of like offices in the New Testament that we relate to. But look at how we never years ago in the church ever considered a secretary of state, an attorney general, a lieutenant governor, a governor, a mayor, or a sheriff or a district attorney. Now we are absolutely being bludgeoned by the reality that if the devil can put in a place that is void because God didn’t occupy it, the devil will use that as leverage against us.

I think this is the part that is the big the real awakening for me if you want to say it aha, is that the Christian church has been so low to sleep in terms of engagement and shaping the world around them. And partly we’re at fault, I think.

Hank: Yeah right.

Lance: Because for so many years when we were at peace our priorities were not getting people engaged. Our priorities were building them up and strengthening them and edifying and giving us, the destiny and purpose and we built ministries off of that success. Now the enemy comes along and it’s plowing us along the line, of we didn’t actually show people that you’ve got to be involved with the school port, with the county commission. Who’s your DA? And once we knew about Soros because I listen to Glenn Becker, Dinesh D’Souza and people would look up George Soros. Certain occasionally says George Soros, but what he was doing was he was buying off DAs. He was paying off and changing the justice system to really cause the lawlessness to be increased.

Now He thinks he’s doing something good like every pervert I’m sure thinks that they’re meeting someone’s need. But we now know Hank that the Secretary of State, the attorney general, the governor, the mayor, the sheriff that it’s all local. I think the battle is going to the sheep nations and goat nations is starting with sheep cities and goat cities, sheep states and goat states. And then is that battle kind of tears and wheat like Jesus prophesied have friction. It’s going to determine whether a nation is a sheep nation or a goat nation. I think what they try to do which what the devil does is he tried to make us a goat nation by taking over the three branches of government but there are too many sheep in the country.

Hank: That’s right.

Lance: And so, the sheep freaked out and even though we are not organized and we’ve got every preacher has his own flock. The people harbor. They can see the picture right here. It’s a marketplace guy like Mike Lindell. A former Goldman Sachs guy like Steve Bannon goes in the media and starts advising Trump.

Hank: Right.

Lance: It’s a 7-Mountain thing and you and me. Right. Strangely enough. What’s the most exciting new wrinkle in our life? Much as we love the church in the pulpit. It’s being on media, television, commenting on political destinies and affairs. We’re in the government media mounting. And I’m calling all of you to step out of your comfort zone. I’m serious about this. And it’s not enough to pray and post. Pray and post is nothing. A post isn’t going to affect anybody. And your prayer may have an effect or it may not. Depends on if you’re praying according to the will of God. But I can tell you this. If you’re praying for God to change America. You better be engaged in the battle in very practical ways and that involves at a minimum.

You’ve got to be literally show up. Show up and bring your anointing and your spiritual authority to a precinct, to a committee, to a school board, to the voting booth. By the way, this precinct strategy, I’m I’ve got Mercedes. We talk about this a lot because she’s going to get more involved with women mobilizing etcetera.

Hank: That’s great.

Lance: And we did, we checked out about this “precinctstrategy.com” which is basically a strategy we promote here about getting involved with your precinct level so that you could be an election worker, a poll worker, a poll watcher, be boots in the ground, right. We figured that in the conservative Christian Bible Belt South Texas. That we probably doing it. We probably need to encourage people to do this in Wisconsin or Michigan or something else. Come to find out that like half the positions are not occupied in Bible belt in belt buckle bible belt cities. Because our people think someone else is doing it. I honestly think we think somebody’s doing it.

Hank: Yeah. You know what I thoughts? Well, as I hear this, you talk about an awakening. I think one of the things that needs to be a reality that we need to be awakened to. Jesus said and I believe it’s in Matthew 13 that, “While men slept, the enemy sowed terrors”. And think about all the terrors politically of candidates of people. You mentioned Secretaries of States, governors, even down on the lower levels of our government where while we were sleeping, while we were afraid to get involved look at the terrors that were sown in our nation. Here’s another reason why.If you go to the book of Acts, there was a man named Uticus. He was a young man that was in a third story seat and he fell asleep. Well, he represents the church because we are seated with Christ in heavenly places in the third heaven.

Some have been asleep in their prayer assignments and I think what it’s going to take is for us to get back to a position of authority and prayer and also in the natural. It’s got to be the sword and the hammer like Nehemiah to take our country back and that’s what you’re talking about.

Lance: And by the way, that Uticus. He fell out of the third-story window because Paul prolonged his speech until midnight which is my Bible sounds like you again. That’s what you’re saying. Which is what I do. I follow you. I do my midnight Rants. Oh, it’s very embarrassing. I have women that come up to me and they and husbands that complain they say, ‘My wife’s waking me up laughing at what you’re saying. Why don’t you just do these things in earlier hours.’

Hank: But you know something I got to say this about you, Lance. So, this man is one of the most brilliant men that I’ve ever met. I say it to people all the time. They say, what’s Lance like? I say, he’s brilliant. But you know what? Brilliant people like yourself. President Trump is brilliant. Mike Lindell is brilliant. You guys can get stay up all night long and have brilliance all day long. So, you never sleep. Well, I think that they might outdo me and that. My wife was telling me. She goes, Mike’s like that all the time. She goes, he’s like that all the time. I think it’s because he still got those speeders in his liver. Is that what it is? Some drug use.

He said, well, that thing might be something. But we got flash point here too. We should really,why don’t you and I go do a show with Jean.

Hank: I agree.

Lance: I think we should go Ray Jean over there and say, hey, was somebody got your friends here? You’re not talking to us?

Hank: Let’s do it.

Lance: Alright. Well, listen. I want to thank you so much for being with us. If you guys have any questions, you can ask us. Mercedes, is there an address they can go to? I got Mercedes here running the show here behind the scenes. She’s still here even though. So, they do if they want to go “Lancewallnau.com” if they want to ask questions, if they want to have future questions

Mercedes: “Asklancenow.com”.

Lance: “AskLancenow.com” I’m going to have Hank on the future I want you to all put a question down for pastor Hank. “Asklancenow.com”. Question about the Bible, about the anointing, about the prophetic, about what God saying, about what you think the Lord’s doing and also where you want to see us go. If you got a city, you want to see us the Flash Point team come to let us know where you are. I want to thank you again.

Hank: Thank you again.

Lance: So, good and rich in your mouth.

Closing: Thanks for listening to this Lance Wallnau broadcast. If you enjoyed today’s show, make sure to subscribe and share the episode. See you tomorrow.

Lance: Hey, friends. We have to take a moment here to just stop in this Moment of Truth Summit. We’ve been discussing some very powerful and hard realities. We’re literally stopping a downward spiral of this country and arresting it. By the grace of God, this is happening. Many people have found that the smart thing that they’re doing with the retirement money with whatever money they have is they’re converting it over into gold and silver and various other commodities and currencies. That They believe are going to store value during this period of time in which Democrats are going to continue to have this inflation reducing spending sprees,which are actually accelerating the inflationary process.

You want to take a look at the data and the Council of Birch Gold, the people that we’ve been interviewing a lot on this program. Go to Lancewallna.com/Birch”. It will give you peace of mind. It will give you a strategy and it’ll give you the ability to hold on to something that will float during the period of instability that is coming. God is going to see us through this. We’re going to do it together. My recommendation is go to “Lancewallnau.com/Birch” and learn what you can do.